Posts Tagged ‘Ali ‎Sina’

What if the Christians and or Christianity continue to grow ‎strong and prosper? They don’t represent Jesus; for sure‎

August 16, 2009

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/if-the-messiah-‎himself-were-to-return-he-would-fail-to-recognize-the-‎prevalent-christianity/#comments

The Janitor says:

It is true; Christianity has deteriorated as it seems ‎everyone thinks themself Christian. But believers in the ‎‎”The Way” continue to grow strong and prosper according to ‎God’s will and purpose. God bless.‎

Paarsurrey says:‎

Hi friend the Janitor (excuse me, I don’t know your name, ‎this is what I find on one of your post on your blog) of ‎http://37stories.wordpress.com:‎

It is very nice of you to acknowledge that the present ‎Christianity has deteriorated so much that it no more ‎represents the concepts and thought of Jesus and Mary.The ‎process of deterioration of Christianity started with the ‎cunning Paul’s untruthful proclaimation of being a disciple ‎of Jesus; while he never learnt a word even from Jesus. ‎Jesus was at that time traveling to India alonwith Mary his ‎mother. When Jesus got saved his life with the grace of God ‎Allah YHWH from a cursed death on cross; he took refuge in ‎India. He later died there and is buried in Mohallah ‎Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir, India, according to some ‎traditions. Jesus died a natural and peaceful death in ‎Kashmir.‎

Jesus never founded any “Christianity”; he was a Jew who ‎followed Moses and he died as a Jew.‎

‎“Christianity” as the word popularly denotes was founded by ‎clever Paul and the sinful scribes; a joint venture started ‎with their own motives. It has got nothing to do with ‎Jesus.‎

I don’t mind if the Christians and or Christianity continue ‎to grow strong and prosper; but I don’t agree that it is ‎being done as willed and desired by Jesus. ‎

All human beings are just like a family; every one is to be ‎loved and respected and no one should be hated.‎

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Ali Sina and R_not etc should understand that what they are doing is not right morally, ‎logically and intellectually

August 12, 2009

http://thoushaltnotbearfalsewitness.wordpress.com/2009/07/31/islamic-terrorism-is-the-‎fruit-of-islam-ali-sina/#comments

R_not says:
Comment:
The closest group that reflects what Islam is are the atheists, communists.‎

Paarsurrey says:‎

I don’t agree with you.‎

Since you are Catholic and siding with Ali Sina in opposing Islam; so you have found it ‎convenient to say that Islam reflects Atheism or Communism; while there is no reality in ‎it.‎

I am of the opinion that Ali Sina when he left Shia denomination, he might have ‎converted to Atheism in confusion or some other denomination of them likeAgnosticism. ‎Mr. Ali Sina could tell us about it.‎

Ali Sina has nothing against Quran/Islam/Muhammad as I don’t see him mentioning ‎anything from Quran supported by its context; he only mentions of some ignorant ‎schorlars whom Quran rejects as being followers of Quran.‎

Ali Sina and R_not etc should understand that what they are doing is not right morally, ‎logically and intellectually.‎

All human beings are just like a family; every one of them deserves to be loved and not ‎hated.‎

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Quran/Islam/Muhammad were never for physical supremacy

July 26, 2009

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/07/24/the_threat_of-isla/

Hi friends

Quran/Islam/Muhammad were for uplift of humanity in the spheres of temporal, moral ‎and spiritual fields. They never believed in physical supremacy. Hence, there is no threat ‎to the world from Quran/Islam/Muhammad. The terrorists; yes, but they are being taken ‎care of by America and Allies. Faithfreedom.org or Ali Sina should not worry about it, in ‎my opinion.‎

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim‎

Quran/Islam/Muhammad never allowed any slavery

July 26, 2009

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/07/24/condemning-european-slavery-sparing-islam-‎the-bigger-culprit/‎

Hi friends

Quran/Islam/Muhammad never allowed any slavery. Please quote a verse from Quran ‎with the context where Islam enjoins to have slaves.‎

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

What denomination of Islam Ali Sina was in before he left Islam; and what religion he joined ‎afterwards?‎

July 26, 2009

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/07/25/did-the-prophet-endorse-suicide-bombing/

Hi friends

So our friend Ali Sina did not find a verse for one to commit a suicide or doing a suicide ‎bombing. It is not there.‎

May I know as to what denomination Ali Sina was before he left Islam; and what religion ‎he joined afterwards?‎

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

‎“The ethics of birth and death”

July 24, 2009

http://thestar.blogs.com/ethics/2009/07/the-ethics-of-birth-and-death.html#comments

Hi friend Stuart Laidlaw

‎”When it comes to motherhood, how old is too old?”‎

It is a good question. I recall here of Zechariah and his wife; who had a child at a very old ‎age. Maybe it also shed a light on the issue on moral and ethical grounds; though I am not ‎sure of their age.‎

I quote from Quran here for a quick reference:

‎[19:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.‎
‎[19:2] Kaf Ha Ya ‘Ain Sad.‎
‎[19:3] This is an account of the mercy of thy Lord shown to His servant, Zachariah.‎
‎[19:4] When he called upon his Lord, a secret calling,‎
‎[19:5] He said, ‘My Lord, the bones have indeed waxed feeble in me, and the head ‎glistens with hoariness, but never, my Lord, have I been unblessed in my prayer to ‎Thee.‎
‎[19:6] ‘And I fear my relations after me, and my wife is barren. Grant me, therefore, ‎a successor from Thyself,

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=19

This way Yahya or John the Baptist a Messenger Prophet of God Allah YHWH was born ‎from his parents at a very advanced age in the Jews; respected in three revealed religions; ‎Judaism, Christianity and Islam.‎

Does anybody here from the viewers of this article get any idea of their age?‎

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

The correct concept of Sunnah of Muhammad; demonstration of an act by Muhammad ‎that has been commanded in Quran

July 15, 2009


http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/07/13/saudi-arabia-and-why-child-marriage-is-‎allowed
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Poma

July 14, 2009 • 6:49 a

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Dear Paarsurrey:

i dont think it is clearly mentioned in the Quran and hadith that you have to marry young ‎girl…but as you know thing are working according to SUNNA…..like Prophet ‎Muhammed daily life things are called sunna.


Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Poma

Thank you for acknowledgeing that there is no verse in Quran where it is commanded to ‎Muslims that they should not to marry adult girls; rather they should marry only child ‎girls.

Your concept of Sunnah is incorrect. Sunnah is something which is commanded or ‎mentioned in Quran and needed Muhammad to demonstrate it in action. If it is not ‎commanded in Quran, then it is not Sunnah. Please correct your concept.

All human beings are just like a family; they should be loved and not hated.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Ahmadi Muslims – want to change the world peacefully, which also appeals to democrats-‎to-the-core-persons in the West‎(and America)

July 11, 2009

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/07/05/is-islam-really-america%e2%80%99s-second-‎largest-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-16991‎

‎• 24. Demsci Says:
July 11th, 2009 at 9:38 am

Hello Paarsurrey, I was raised as a Protestant Christian, tried to live accordingly until ‎about my 21st birthday. But I could not dispel my doubts, which I had had all my life. So ‎I stopped going to church. I kept on searching, reading, and now I consider myself a ‎Darwinist. I consider Science the best way to help us find ever more of the Truth.‎
I am glad that there are Ahmadi Muslims who only want to change the world peacefully, ‎which appeals to a democrat-to-the-core-person like me.

‎• 25. paarsurrey Says:
July 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

Hi friend Demsci

Thanks for your appreciation.‎
I congratulate you on being bold enough to leave Protestantism. They, the Protestants left ‎‎the simple and rational teachings of Jesus; and opted to follow the cunning Paul and ‎‎sinful scirbes of the Bible. If we see the real character, teachings, acts and Revelations ‎‎Jesus had from God Allah YHWH, we have to admit that he was one of the perfect men ‎‎that walked on Earth.

After when he survived death on Cross and he migrated to India; most unfortunately, his ‎‎enemies took over; they changed and tailored his teachings and also his acts according to ‎‎their own low motives. Jesus was not responsible for that changes made in his name;in ‎‎fact he had warned his follwers of this phenomenon.

I would say that the Man Jesus was a truthful Messenger Prophet of God Allah YHWH; ‎‎and hence his teachings consisting on his pure revelations were originally truthful. I ‎‎would suggest you to rediscover the perfect man Jesus; and follow him, if you can.Jesus ‎‎was not god and he never claimed to be one. The present Christianity has got nothing to ‎‎do with Jesus and persents only a mythical Jesus carved out of thin air by Paul and the ‎‎Church unauthorized.

If you still remain disgusted with the Bible; then you enjoy your life being a Darwinist; ‎‎but don’t oppose Jesus; a natural fruit of humanity and truthfulness. This is only a ‎‎brotherly advice; no compulsion.

Please concentrate on your new religion – your present abode of faith. You may present ‎‎merits of Darwinism if you so like and tell us as to how you cherish it. This may benefit ‎‎us, who hardly know anything about this religion; if it is a religion.

I understand that there have been many scientific changes in the theory Darwin ‎‎presented.What is your opinion about it?

You may present your interesting write-up as a separate topic in this forum for benefit of ‎‎us all; if the owners/moderators allow it.

All human beings are but a family; love for all, hatred for none.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Convey! And thy Lord is Most Generous,

July 5, 2009

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/06/30/the-quran-and-hadith-which-is-more-authentic/comment-page-1/#comment-16564

‎28. jonc Says:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pm ‎

What you say makes sense – right up to the point that the Sahih Hadith about the ‎collection of the Koran are introduced.


33. paarsurrey Says:
July 4th, 2009 at 8:19 pm


Hi friend jonc

As I have mentioned in the earlier post, Quran as the word means was the revelation ‎descended on the heart of Muhammad from God Allah YHWH and he was guaranteed ‎from Him that he need not worry about making strenuous effort to remember the ‎Revelation; he would remember it naturally and he would not forget it. From Muhammad ‎his companions learnt it by heart or committed it to their memory.Writing the revelation ‎was only an auxiliary measure adopted by Muhammad.


It was not made incumbent on Muhammad, in my opinion, by any clear verse in Quran to ‎commit it to writing; I don’t see any such verse in Quran. Muhammad and his ‎companions loved Quran and exactly as the word Quran meant they recited Quran very ‎often, in the prayers and even without it; this is not an unusual thing, upto our times this ‎practice continues among Muslims. The text of Quran was compiled already in the ‎memory of Muhammad and his companions in the same form as it is found in our times ‎without any change. It needed no further compilation or collection.


One could go to any Muslim Mosque in any part of the world; there one could find ‎persons who remember Quran by heart. One may take a copy of Quran with one and ‎request them to recite Quran from their memory. One would find that there is no ‎difference in the written and the recited Quran from the heart.‎
There are so many verses in Quran from God Allah YHWH which say that He had made ‎it very easy to learn Quran and to commit it to memory. The Creator has made the human ‎mind and memory aligned and attuned to remember Quran with ease and convenience. I ‎don’t think there is any other Book in the world of the size of Quran which is committend ‎to memory with love as the Muslims do with Quran, only because it is a natural ‎Revelation from God Allah YHWH and He has taken it on Himself that it would remain ‎secure and protected in all times to come.


The written Quran was and is but a reflection of the loving heart of Muhammad, his ‎companions and the faithful believers in the whole world. Nobody could scratch it out of ‎their hearts; howsoever one tries. Uthman only made it very convenient to understand for ‎those who were not familiar with it , due to the spread of Islam in other parts of the ‎world; his effort are undoubtedly laudable.‎
It is remarkable indeed.


Love for all; hatred for none. Humans are but a family.


Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

34. Shafee al-Zindig Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 7:25 am

33. paarsurrey Says: “From Muhammad ‎his companions learnt it by heart or committed it to their memory.Writing the revelation ‎was only an auxiliary measure adopted by Muhammad. It was not made incumbent on Muhammad, in my opinion, by any clear verse in Quran to ‎commit it to writing; I don’t see any such verse in Quran.”

Have you read Sura 96 – The Clot? This was the very first Muhammad is supposed to have received in the cave at Hira outside Mecca where he used to go to meditate.

1.”Read: In the name of thy Lord who createth,
2. Createth man from a clot.
3. Read: And thy Lord is the Most Bounteous
4. Who teacheth by the Pen,
5. Teacheth man that which he knew not.”

These verses clearly and unequivocally state that Muhammad was instructed to use “the pen” to record and teach the Quran to his followers. End of discussion!

35. 35. paarsurrey Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
July 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

Hi friend Shafee al-Zindiq

Thank you for quoting five verses from Quran; I would like to quote some more verses to make them in all eleven verses for the usual short context:

‏[96:1] بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمـٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ ‏
‎[96:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. ‎
‏[96:1] اللہ کے نام کے ساتھ جو بے انتہا رحم کرنے والا، بِن مانگے دینے والا (اور) بار بار ‏رحم کرنے والا ہے۔ ‏

‏[96:2] اقْرَاْ بِاسْمِ رَبِّكَ الَّذِىْ خَلَقَ‌ۚ‏ ‏
‎[96:2] Convey thou in the name of thy Lord Who created, ‎
‏[96:2] پڑھ اپنے ربّ کے نام کے ساتھ جس نے پیدا کیا۔ ‏

‏[96:3] خَلَقَ الْاِنْسَانَ مِنْ عَلَقٍ‌ۚ‏ ‏
‎[96:3] Created man from a clot of blood. ‎
‏[96:3] اُس نے انسان کو ایک چمٹ جانے والے لوتھڑے سے پیدا کیا۔ ‏

‏[96:4] اقْرَاْ وَرَبُّكَ الْاَكْرَمُۙ‏ ‏
‎[96:4] Convey! And thy Lord is Most Generous, ‎
‏[96:4] پڑھ، اور تیرا ربّ سب سے زیادہ معزز ہے۔ ‏

‏[96:5] الَّذِىْ عَلَّمَ بِالْقَلَمِۙ‏ ‏
‎[96:5] Who taught man by the pen, ‎
‏[96:5] جس نے قلم کے ذریعہ سکھایا۔ ‏

‏[96:6] عَلَّمَ الْاِنْسَانَ مَا لَمْ يَعْلَمْؕ‏ ‏
‎[96:6] Taught man what he knew not. ‎
‏[96:6] انسان کو وہ کچھ سکھایا جو وہ نہیں جانتا تھا۔ ‏

‏[96:7] كَلَّاۤ اِنَّ الْاِنْسَانَ لَيَطْغٰٓىۙ‏ ‏
‎[96:7] Nay! man does indeed transgress, ‎
‏[96:7] خبردار! انسان یقیناً سرکشی کرتا ہے۔ ‏

‏[96:8] اَنْ رَّاٰهُ اسْتَغْنٰىؕ‏ ‏
‎[96:8] Because he thinks himself to be independent. ‎
‏[96:8] (اس لئے) کہ اس نے اپنے آپ کو بے نیاز سمجھا۔ ‏

‏[96:9] اِنَّ اِلٰى رَبِّكَ الرُّجْعٰىؕ‏ ‏
‎[96:9] Surely, unto thy Lord is the return. ‎
‏[96:9] یقیناً تیرے ربّ ہی کی طرف لَوٹ کر جانا ہے۔ ‏

‏[96:10] اَرَءَيْتَ الَّذِىْ يَنْهٰىؕ‏ ‏
‎[96:10] Hast thou seen him who forbids ‎
‏[96:10] کیا تُو نے اُس شخص پر غور کیا جو روکتا ہے؟ ‏

‏[96:11] عَبْدًا اِذَا صَلّٰىؕ‏ ‏
‎[96:11] A servant of Ours when he prays? ‎
‏[96:11] ایک عظیم بندے کو جب وہ نماز پڑھتا ہے۔ ‏

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=96&verse=10

I agree that there is mention of pen in the above verses; nevertheless there are no instruction contained therein for Muhammad to read a written text or to commit the revelation to writing. The instruction are generally given as a commandment or as doing something or not doing a thing. There is no instruction here to write, or to read from a writing, in my opinion.

All human beings are but a family; love for all, hatred for none.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim