Jesus’ guards were bribed it is very much in the NTBible

prometheus7 Says:
July 24, 2008 at 1:37 pm

Your opinions take in a lot “secret” things that would have had to happen. Don’t forget that to bribe a roman guard, it would have taken a lot. Rome did not look litely on those kinds of things. Remember the story of when the stone was rolled away? It was a serious offense if those guards were sleeping.
What facts are there to support the India theory?
Also remember that all these “witnesses” paid with their lives. If it was a bunch of lies, I wouldn’t go to the death for that.

paarsurrey Says:
July 25, 2008 at 9:54 am

It is easy to understand from the NTBible that Jesus followers knew that the guards could be bribed. If the Jews could do it; why not Jesus’ friends? Everrything was possible to do secretly.

Please read carefully the following write-up.

Promised Messiah 1835-1908 Says:

In short, these gospels contain many things which show that they have not preserved their original form, or that their writers were some other persons — not the disciples. For example, can the statement of the gospel according to Matthew: ‘And this is well known among the Jews till to-day’, be properly ascribed to Matthew? Does it not show that the writer of the gospel of Matthew was some other person who lived at a time when Matthew had already died? Then, the same gospel of Matthew 28:12,13 says: And they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers, saying, Say ye, his disciples came by night and stole him away while we slept’.

It would be noticed how unconvincing and irrational such statements are. If the meaning of this statement is that the Jews wanted to conceal the rising of Jesus from the dead, and that they had bribed the soldiers in order that this great miracle should not become generally known, why was it that Jesus, whose duty it was to proclaim this miracle among the Jews, kept it a secret; nay, he forbade even others to disclose it? If it is urged that he was afraid of being caught, I would say, that when the decree of God had descended upon him, and he had, after suffering death, come to life again, assuming a spiritual and a glorious body, what fear did he now have of the Jews — surely the Jews now had no power over him; he was now beyond and above mortal existence?

One observes with regret that while, on the one hand, it is said that he was made to live again and assume a spiritual body, that he met the disciples and went to Galilee and thence went to heaven, he is nevertheless afraid of the Jews for quite trivial things and, in spite of his glorious body, he fled secretly from the country, lest the Jews discover him; he made a journey of seventy miles to Galilee in order to save his life and time and again asked the people not to mention this to others.

Are these the signs and ways of a glorious body? No, the truth is that it was not a new and a glorious body — it was the same body, with wounds on it, which had been saved from death; and, as there was still the fear of the Jews, Jesus, making use of all precautions, left the land. All talk of anything contrary to this is absurd — as the one about the Jews having bribed the soldiers in order to make them say that the disciples had stolen the corpse while they (the soldiers) were asleep. If the soldiers were asleep they could be very well asked how they came to know in their sleep that the corpse of Jesus had been stolen away. From the mere fact of Jesus not being in the tomb, can anybody in reason believe that he had gone up to heaven?

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch1.html

I think it is very easy to understand and you would agree.

I respect your faith and I love Jesus and Muhammad.

Kindly form your own unbiased opinion; the account of the scribes of the NTBible is not much to be trusted.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

2 Responses to “Jesus’ guards were bribed it is very much in the NTBible”

  1. paul8bee Says:

    I reply to this quote dec 13
    “” Don’t forget that to bribe a Roman guard, it would have taken a lot””
    a LOT OF what…??
    There were them in the roman guard who were nice guys.
    But, you need to make a living.

    Nothing has changed in 2000 years.
    Today the guards,(military) >police forcesovereign>leader> dictator>elected officer.

    It is a fantasy to think that the Romans back then were more moral than we are today;
    Back then they nailed you to a cross for
    No particular reason, other than,
    You threatened their high life at the cost of slavery.

    True times change. But. People do not.
    The same human traits that caused the Roman to nail an innocent man to the cross, is , still existent today.

    Its always the same guy , just a different look.

    The human forces that caused the world wars, are still at work.
    The group leaders, the unhappy, the mentaly ill, still exist today.

    Question : How can we help.?

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