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Indus Valley Civilization

February 24, 2017

It is essential that Veda/Yajurveda flora and fauna mentioned in its chapters should be analyzed to verify which land they were written.
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    The Dravidians don’t agree with it. Aryan Civilization and the IVC features are different:

    The Vedas describe the wheels of the Chariots with spokes, but the wheels that are seen on the seals and vehicles of clay in Indus valley do not have wheels with spokes.2

    Following analysation of Sir John Marshall on the Indus Valley Civilization here are given some clues.

    1. “The picture of Indo-Aryan society portrayed in the Vedas is that of a partly pastoral, partly agricultural people, who have not yet emerged from the village state, who have no knowledge of life in cities or of the complex economic organization which such life implies, and whose houses are nondescript affairs constructed largely of bamboo.

    At Mohenjo-daro and Harappa, on the other hand, we have densely populated cities with solid, commodious houses of brick equipped with a adequate sanitation, bathrooms, wells, and other amenities.

    2. The metals which the Indo-Aryans used in the time of the Rigveda are gold and copper or bronze; but a little late, in the time of the Yajurveda and Atharvaveda, these metals are supplemented by silver and iron.

    Among the Indus people silver is commoner than gold, and utensils and vessels are sometimes made of stone – a relic of the Neolithic Age – as well as of copper and bronze. Of iron there is no vestige.

    Is Indus Valley Civilization Dravidian
    And there are many others given on the above link.
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    “there is no pre-Vedic or post-Vedic period”

    One certainly does not find it convenient to talk in these terms, but since when date classification are made, the dates have no certainties due to revisions made in them while discussing the Pre-History period.
    For the History period it is OK, as their are some written record to confirm them.

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    I am not a Quranist, yet every Muslim only considers Quran as Word of G-d, and Hadith the sayings of Muhammad.

    Quran existed continuous in its present form since it was revealed on Muhammad.
    Hadith was collected 250/300 years after Muhammad.
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    “Samhitas, Brahmanas, Aranyakas and Upanishads”
    Only Vedas are revealed, all others don’t form the revealed scripture and belong to Post Veda Period and are un-revealed. PleaseRegards

    Post by: paarsurrey, Jan 12, 2017 in forum: Religious Debates
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  15. It has been strongly contested by others:

    • There is no reference in Rigveda to the big cities or important places of the IVC.
    • There is no evidence in Rigveda about the Indus peoples’ architectural skills.
    • There is no evidence in Rigveda about the tubed drainages found in the Indus valley.
    • There is no evidence in Rigveda about water reservoirs or ponds found in Indus valley.
    • There is no evidence in Rigveda about water urn burials found in Indus valley.

    Why the Rig Vedas Cannot Overlap with the Indus Valley Civilization
    There are many other points mentioned in the above article. One may like to visit that site to reconcile the issue.
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Muhammad was never trained to be a soldier

February 24, 2017

Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss.
Muhammad was never trained to be a soldier. He was a tradesman and had no big ambitions. He was busy in himself, praying in reclusiveness and was a happy person .

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One may also like to read more to know that Muhammad only defended himself and his followers for co-existence, that was denied by the Meccans to them :

The following are some of the events relating to the major wars the Prophet was involved in:

Persecution of Muslims in Mecca, and Muslim Migration to Medina

“The Prophet began receiving revelations from God in 610 CE in Mecca.  As a result, the Prophet criticized the Meccans for worshipping idols and for mistreating the weak.  Therefore, the Meccans became hostile to the Muslims and subjected the Muslims to physical abuse.  When some of the Muslims escaped to Abyssinia, the Meccans followed them and unsuccessfully tried to convince the Abyssinians to turn the Muslims over to the Meccans.  In September 622 CE, the Meccans tried to assassinate the Prophet.  The Prophet and his followers escaped to Medina at the invitation of a group of people from Medina who had become Muslim.  The Prophet and his followers left their homes and all their property in Mecca and fled to Medina; the Meccans confiscated the Muslims’ property.”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/muslimsforasafeamerica/2013/01/why-did-prophet-muhammad-go-to-war/

8 Rules of Engagement Taught by the Prophet Muhammad:

http://ilmfeed.com/8-rules-of-engagement-taught-by-the-prophet-muhammad/

Islam entered Bharat (India) very peacefully in the times of Muhammad

February 24, 2017

Muhammad did not invade India:
Islam entered Bharat very peacefully in the times of Muhammad:
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Cheraman Juma Masjid at Kodungallur

Islam arrived in Kerala through Arab traders during the time of Prophet Muhammad(AD 609 – AD 632). Kerala has a very ancient relation with the middle east even during the Pre-Islamic period. Muslim merchants (Malik Deenar) settled in Kerala by the 7th century AD and introduced Islam. The Cheraman Juma Masjid said to be the very first mosque in India situated in Kodungallur Taluk, in state of Kerala. According to a tradition, Cheraman Perumal, the last of the Chera kings, became Muslim and traveled to visit prophet Muhammad and this event helped the spread of Islam.
Islam in Kerala – Wikipedia

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Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss

February 24, 2017

Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss
Seeing the figures of human causalities in “the most murderous century ever” one must note here that Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss, if he and his followers would have not been attacked aggressively; there would have been no human loss.
Muhammad had no intention to capture any lands or to be a king.Right? Please

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Which God is truthful?

February 22, 2017

“Dawkins and the like are sure laymen on Revealed Religions or God.
The believers of Revealed Religions consider the non-revealed religions, with the same group as Atheism or the like, as superstitious, denying reality/Truth.
Unless of course if they justify their “no-god”/many gods position/no-position with positive and reasonable arguments without reference to the believers.”

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Which God is truthful?
This is an internal subject of the believers from which-ever God/gods they select for themselves on their own choice and responsibility.
Dawkins and the like are sure laymen on Revealed Religions or God.
The believers of Revealed Religions consider the non-revealed religions, with the same group as Atheism or the like, as superstitious, denying reality/Truth.
Unless of course if they justify their “no-god”/many gods position/no-position with positive and reasonable arguments without reference to the believers.
Right? Please

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“God is an unknowable essence and the best way we can know God’s will is through His chosen Messengers or Manifestations. These include the Abrahamic Faiths but also Buddhism and Hinduism. When religions become old or they no longer have reliable sacred texts to refer to the light becomes obscured.”

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I agree with one on what I have colored in magenta. Please
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No value is to be given because one is specialized in another subject “say science”.
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Response from Paarsurrey:
It is based on Revelation, it is not superstition.
While Atheism is neither based on Revelation nor on science.
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Beauty and all other positive verities that we perceive belong to Him, and He (One G-d) has let us perceive them . Please
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Be a believer and one could know the Truth of reality. Please
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Which God is truthful?

One-God whatever name in a language the people may have. Yahweh, Ahura Mazda, Brahman, Allah. The attributes decide, if they all mean ONE. Please
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Please quote from Yajurveda to support one’s stance.
Please give all the attributes of Brahman from Veda.
Anybody, please
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Isra and Mairaj are spiritual visions

February 22, 2017

“Isra and Mairaj are spiritual visions and have nothing to do with superstitions.
In Isra Muhammad was informed as to how Islam will be revived in latter days by coming of Messiah and Mahdi and the End Times Reformer of all revealed religions.”

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Isra and Mairaj are spiritual visions and have nothing to do with superstitions.
In Isra Muhammad was informed as to how Islam will be revived in latter days by coming of Messiah and Mahdi and the End Times Reformer of all revealed religions including the religion of Veda and Krishna. And it has taken place exactly.
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Hinduism :Supreme Being or Supreme God

January 29, 2017
Supreme Being or Supreme God is a term for God in Hinduism
Ishvara means God, Supreme Being, personal god, or special Self.[2][3][4]
In Hinduism, the term is used by several traditions. It is used by the Vaishnavite traditions in reference to Vishnu/Krishna,[7][8] and by the Shaiva tradition in reference to Shiva.[9]
In ShaivismIshvara is synonymous with “Shiva“, sometimes as Maheshvara or Parameshvara meaning the “Supreme lord”, or as an Ishta-deva (personal god).[5] In Vaishnavism, it is synonymous with Vishnu.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishvara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Being
Svayam Bhagavān (Sanskritsvayam bhagavān, lit. ” The Lord Himself “) is a Sanskrit theological term for the concept of absolute representation of God as Bhagavan. He is the one eternal Supreme Being called BrahmaVishnuShiva and Trimurti.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svayam_Bhagavan
In HinduismBrahman (/brəhmən/; ब्रह्मन्) connotes the highest Universal Principle, the Ultimate Reality in the universe.[1][2][3] In major schools of Hindu philosophy, it is the material, efficient, formal and final cause of all that exists.[2][4][5] It is the pervasive, genderless, infinite, eternal truth and bliss which does not change, yet is the cause of all changes.[1][6][7] Brahman as a metaphysical concept is the single binding unity behind the diversity in all that exists in the universe.[1][8]
Brahman is a Vedic Sanskrit word, and it is conceptualized in Hinduism, states Paul Deussen, as the “creative principle which lies realized in the whole world”.[9] Brahman is a key concept found in the Vedas,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman

Is Quran self-explanatory?

October 28, 2016
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Yes. It needs nothing to explain its contents and the meaning. Following peculiarities of Quran may be noted, please:
1. Quran is self-explanatory, it explains its meaning in the context verses, some verses preceding and some verses following of the verse in question, to make itself clear Quran explains the subjects in different verses of Quran in different styles. Its diction also becomes clear if one sees all the words of the word-roots used in Quran. Quran doesn’t need anything else in the exterior.
2. Quran corrects the history, rather history correcting it. Sure, the verses of Quran were revealed on a particular occasion, so all of it was practically required by the humans but the verses were arranged as per the guidance provided to Muhammad by G-d as to where they should find their placed while memorizing the Quran/Recitation and in the scripture that was written immediately by the appointed scribes.
3. Quran does make a constructive, objective and normative/principled criticism of the other Word Revealed, the people who believed in them and their tenets and as such corrects the narratives of Torah and other revealed scriptures of all religions of the world in some with names and others in generic formations.
4. Quran does include in it lasting teachings given to the past prophets that has similarity with Quran and also gives teachings that are not found in the past prophets and it is reasonable.
5. Quran confirms the truthfulness of the founders of other religions and binds Quran’s followers to accept them truthful and makes it one of the basic articles of faith of Islam. This way Quran elevates other revealed religions.
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Quran has an amazing system

October 27, 2016

https://www.onfaith.co/discussion/quran-has-an-amazing-system

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Like the universe has a system in it, likewise Quran has a system in it. One cannot create the universe, similarly one cannot create the system Quran has for the ethical, moral and spiritual issues of humanity. it has claims as well as the reasons in it, impossible for a human to do it. Muhammad or any other person could not have authored Quran. it is authored by G-d whatever the proper name of Him in any language that a people speak. Regards

“10 Things I Wish Everyone Knew About Sikhism”by Simran Jeet Singh

October 26, 2016
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Despite being one of the world’s largest world religions, Sikhism remains one of the most unknown traditions in America. The lack of understanding has led to serious consequences, including discriminatory policies, bigoted stereotypes, traumatic school bullying and violent hate crimes.
Here is a list of 10 things that the global community ought to know about its Sikh neighbors.
1. Sikhism is an independent religion.
A number of people mistakenly think Sikhism is an offshoot of Hinduism, an offshoot of Islam, or a blend of the two religions. While the category of religion is itself problematic, scholars and practitioners alike classify Sikhism as an independent religion.
The Sikh tradition carries the basic markers of organized religion, including its own founder-prophet (Guru Nanak), scripture (Guru Granth Sahib), discipline and ceremonies (rahit), and community centers (gurdwara). There are more than 27 million Sikhs worldwide, making it the fifth largest world religion.
2. Rooted in oneness and love, Sikh theology encourages a life of spirituality and service.
Oneness and love serve as the foundations of Sikh theology — these are both the objective and process. Sikhs aim to recognize the divinity within everyone and everything they encounter, and this daily practice helps the individual cultivate and embody the qualities of oneness and love.
Sikhs believe that the Creator permeates all of Creation and that every individual is filled with the same divine potential. The Sikh tradition emphasizes the collective familyhood of all humanity and challenges all social inequalities, including those on the basis of class, caste, gender, and profession.
Realizing oneness and love within one’s life also compels the individual to seek unity with the world around them. The tradition urges its followers to live as a sant-sipahi (warrior-saint), one who strikes a balance of cultivating spirituality while also contributing socially through community service.
3. The real meaning of “guru.”
The word “guru” literally means “enlightener,” and while it has come to refer to an expert in any domain (e.g., basketball guru, real estate guru), it carries a particular institutional meaning within the Sikh tradition. In Sikhism, “guru” refers to the line of authority, beginning with a set of 10 prophets who established and led the Sikh community. The first of these, Guru Nanak, was born in 1469 CE, and the tenth in his line, Guru Gobind Singh, breathed his last in 1708 CE.
Before he passed, Guru Gobind Singh passed the leadership to joint entities — the Guru Granth Sahib (the scriptural canon) and the Guru Khalsa Panth (the community of initiated Sikhs). Sikhs revere these two as occupying the throne of the Guru for eternity.
4. The Guru Granth Sahib is a unique scripture.
The authority accorded to the Guru Granth Sahib certainly sets it apart from other scriptural texts of the major world religions. The Guru Granth Sahib also defies common expectations of scripture in other ways.
The Guru Granth Sahib was compiled by the Sikh Gurus themselves and is primarily comprised of writings composed by the Gurus. This collection also includes the devotional writings of other religious figures, including Muslim Sufis and Hindu Bhaktas.
Unlike the prose narratives that make up a majority of western scriptures, the Guru Granth Sahib is made up entirely of devotional poetry, most of which is set to music. These writings are primarily made up of expressions of divine experiences and wisdom on religious cultivation. These writings have played a central role in Sikh practice since the time of Guru Nanak — Sikh worship consists of singing these compositions in both private and congregational settings.
5. The Sikh Gurus presented a pluralistic worldview.
As evidenced by the inclusion of writings from other religious figured within the Guru Granth Sahib, the Sikh Gurus did not believe in religious exclusivism. Rather, their pluralistic worldview posited that one could reach the Realization from any religious tradition. Sikhism teaches that diverse paths can lead to the divine, as long as the individual traverses the path with love. Because of this pluralistic outlook, Sikhism has no real history of missionizing or proselytizing.
While some misinterpret this pluralism as promoting cultural relativism, it is important to note that the Gurus also emphasized the importance of following an accomplished leader and maintaining religious discipline. Sikhism does not encourage the increasingly popular models of “a la carte religion” or “spiritual-but-not-religious,” though admittedly Sikh jurisprudence is relatively less complex than most religious traditions.
6. Sikhs have a long history of standing for justice.
Guru Nanak modeled social engagement by critiquing social inequalities, building institutions that serve and empower the disenfranchised, and publicly critiquing political oppression. The subsequent Gurus preserved and built upon the foundations laid by Guru Nanak. For example, the ninth among them, Guru Tegh Bahadur, observed Mughal state authorities forcefully converting its Hindu constituents. Although this oppression targeted a religious community to which he did not belong and whose beliefs he did not share, Guru Tegh Bahadur stood up firmly for their right to practice religion freely — and the state responded by publicly executing Guru Tegh Bahadur.
The Sikh community has drawn inspiration and guidance from such examples over the years, and it has demonstrated a commitment to justice in various ways. Sikhs are taught to defend the defenseless and have historically led responses to political oppression. Sikhs have therefore been regularly targeted by the political elite, a cycle that continues to play out in present-day India.
7. Sikhs maintain a unique identity.
Since the formative moments of the tradition, Sikhs have maintained a physical identity that makes them stand out in public, even in the context of South Asia. This identity includes five articles of faith — kesh (unshorn hair), kanga (small comb), kara (steel bracelet), kirpan (religious article resembling a knife), and kachera (soldier-shorts) — and distinguishes someone who has formally committed to the values of the faith by accepting initiation.
While many have attempted to ascribe functionalist rationales for each of these articles, these understandings do not capture the connections that Sikhs have with these articles. Perhaps the best analogy (though admittedly an imperfect one) is that of a wedding ring: one cannot reduce the significance of a wedding ring to its instrumental value; rather, one cherishes the wedding ring because it is a gift of love from one’s partner. Similarly, Sikhs cherish their articles of faith primarily because they see them as a gift from their beloved Guru. Trying to understand these articles on the basis of their function is missing the point.
Perhaps the most visible aspect of the Sikh identity is the turban, which can be worn by men and women alike. The turban was historically worn by royalty in South Asia, and the Gurus adopted this practice as a way of asserting the sovereignty and equality of all people. For a Sikh, wearing a turban asserts a public commitment to maintaining the values and ethics of the tradition, including service, compassion, and honesty.
8. Sikhism believes in absolute equality.
Sikhism was founded on the concept of oneness and justice, and the Gurus adamantly rejected all social inequalities. While women continue to be subjugated in modern South Asia, the Sikh Gurus rebuked discriminatory practices that marginalized women (e.g., sati, purdah) and openly placed women in leadership positions.
Along these lines, the Gurus established new practices to challenge social norms, such as India’s caste system, that perpetuated social inequalities. For instance, the tenth Guru asked all Sikhs to abandon their last names — which identified one’s caste — and asked them all to take on a collective last name reserved for royal families to signify the inherent equality and nobility of every individual: Kaur for women and Singh for men. Similarly, the Gurus established the institution of langar, a free meal provided at the gurdwara that is open to one and all. During this meal, everyone sits together on the ground, regardless of caste, social status, gender, or religious background.
9. Darbar Sahib of Amritstar is the epicenter of the Sikh psyche.
Known to westerners as the Golden Temple, Darbar Sahib of Amritsar, Punjab has served as the center for the Sikh community since its founding more than four centuries ago. Sikh theologian Sirdar Kapur Singh referred to Darbar Sahib as “the theo-political capital of Sikhs.” This phrase captures the role of this site as both a spiritual center where the community gathers to worship as well as a political throne where collective decisions have been made.
It is inaccurate to refer to Darbar Sahib as “a sacred space” or as “Sikhism’s holiest site.” Sikh theology recognizes that divinity permeates the entire world equally and therefore does not recognize any particular space to be uniquely sacred or holy. At the same time, Darbar Sahib does occupy a special place in the collective Sikh psyche. The site has witnessed a number of significant historical events, from the return of the sixth Guru after a stint in prison and the first public enthronement of the Sikh scripture during the 17th century to massacres of thousands of civilians and the burning of historical artifacts and relics by the Indian Army in 1984.
10. Sikhs have made immense contributions to American society.
From the time of their arrival in the late 1800s, Sikh men and women have been making notable contributions to American society. Early immigrants settled in the western frontier, where they played a major role in building America’s railroads. Sikh Americans like Bhagat Singh Thind served in the U.S. military during the World Wars, and the first Asian American Congressman was a Sikh American elected to office in 1957. The inventor of fiber optics is a Sikh American, as is the country’s largest peach grower, the mayor of Charlottesville, Virginia, and Morgan Freeman’s personal physician. Sikh American women continue to make diverse contributions, such as Grammy-winning artist Snatam Kaur, commercial airline pilot Arpinder Kaur, and Columbia University professor Supreet Kaur.
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