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October 26, 2016

As noted by :

“Allah is a word for God. In Arabic, the word means simply “the God.” It is used mainly by Muslims and often, albeit not exclusively, by Bahá’ís, Arabic-speaking Eastern Catholic Christians, Maltese Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox Christians, Mizrahi Jews and Sikhs.”

Paarsurrey wrote:

Quran/Islam/Muhammad did not invent the word “Allah”, a proper name of G-d, One-God in the Arabic language. It is and was used by other religions also.

Quran/Islam/Muhammad gave the perfect attributes of G-d, that are very reasonable having no contradiction in them. So, the peculiarity of Quran is giving the right attributes. In fact the whole Quran explains the attributes of G-d and how to inculcate them in one’s won self with seeking help from G-d or Allah. This is the concept of Islamic worship. It is not that G-d needs our worship, it is the we human being who need this worship. If we don’t do that, then we are automatically switched to worship evil and go into the footsteps of the Devil.

We can go upwards, by elevating ourselves to higher moral and spiritual status struggling against our base instincts else our evil instincts drag us down.

The first chapter of Quran summarizes:

  1. introduction to the four most essential attributes of G-d,
  2. then as to how to seek G-d’s help  on the  path towards G-d
  3. and as to how to be perfect human beings who were successful in attaining nearness to G-d,
  4. that is faraway from the evil or Devil’s path.

The whole of  the rest of Quran is illustration and elaboration of the above. This is the  amazing system of Quran, the only secure and the pristine Word revealed, without any corruptions.


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What is God?

June 30, 2015 >Thread:A good heated discussion.

Please click the post # below to view,comment and join discussion on the topic.

Post #147

Paarsurrey wrote:

I am an Ahmadi Muslim, G-d is described in Quran in many verses, combining them in one word define G-d. One such place is:

[2:256] Allah — there is no God but He, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining. Slumber seizes Him not, nor sleep. To Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that will intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them; and they encompass nothing of His knowledge except what He pleases. His knowledge extends over the heavens and the earth; and the care of them burdens Him not; and He is the High, the Great.​


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Definition of “God” is not owned by the Atheists

May 15, 2015

View, comment or join discussion on< > <Your best argument that God does not exist>.

Post #196


I don’t agree with you.
Definition of G-d is the prerogative of a Theist, whatever way he defines according to his perspective. The Atheists cannot bind one on their definition. This would be against the freedom of religion and freedom of thought.


Point to Note:
Nobody has given any positive proofs and evidences that “G-d does not exist”

“Your best argument that god exists”

May 13, 2015

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Post #162

Paarsurrey wrote:

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim. Our G-d is identified by many attributes or these good attributes identify him. I give some of His attributes:

[2:256]Allah — there is no God but He, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining. Slumber seizes Him not, nor sleep. To Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that will intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them; and they encompass nothing of His knowledge except what He pleases. His knowledge extends over the heavens and the earth; and the care of them burdens Him not; and He is the High, the Great.
Quran : Chapter 2

He has existed always and has communicated with righteous persons in every region of the world and in all ages.
His communication identifies that He exists.


Post #165

Paarsurrey wrote:

I don’t agree with you.
The attributes are at work in the Universe/s since inception hence it is good and valid argument.
I am not convincing anybody per force and I don’t have to.


Post #174

Paarsurrey wrote:

Yes , he was the end-time reformer as prophesied by all the religions. G-d spoke to him as He has always spoken to the righteous people in all regions of the world and at all times. Converse/communication by G-d is a strong argument for existing of G-d.

Thanks and regards

Jesus cannot be physical part of G-d

May 11, 2015

<> under topic <Jesus is under subjection to God>.

Paarsurrey wrote:

G-d is not a physical being so Jesus cannot be His physical part.
It is a wrong notion.


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There is no god but Allah

May 16, 2014

Friday Sermon: There is no god but Allah
Sermon Delivered by Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad (at) Head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

The translation of the sermon is available in following languages; please click the language of your choice after accessing the above link.

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Synopsis: English

What was it that the people of that time not believe in which agonised the Holy Prophet(saw)? They did not believe in desisting from associating partners with God, in making man son of God. Shirk or associating partners with God is a sin which God has called unpardonable. It is love and compassion for every human being, even for an idolater, with which one makes practical effort to bring them to the right path and also pray for them.

Hazrat Khalifatul Masih said that some time ago he felt that the workers and management of Humanity First had the idea that if they gave their services unconnected with faith, perhaps the world would appreciate them more. Huzoor explained to the central management here that their significance was in being connected to faith and the Jama’at is mentioned in their works somehow or the other. And there was nothing wrong to, if need be, mention the Jama’at in some instances.
In the world slogans are raised to have mottos about moral development, slogans are raised to have mottos about academic development and if human rights are violated somewhere political organisations make freedom their motto and make efforts in this regards and raise slogans. Any other specific situation elsewhere gives rise to specific mottos. The reason to have a motto is to establish it in the world and to also keep it in view at the same time.

Hazrat Musleh Maud(ra) said that some mottos are inter-connected. For example the mottos ‘obey God’ and ‘advance in virtues’ are interdependent because obedience of God is not possible without advancing in virtues and one who is not virtuous cannot be obedient to God. Similarly the mottos ‘I shall give precedence to faith over worldly matters’ and ‘I shall try and excel in good works’ are congruous and inter-linked. Thus, all virtues are good and we should try and adopt them.

When someone becomes spiritually weak it is because he has lost sight of لا الہ الا اللہ because if one always keeps لا الہ الا اللہ in view one is saved from spiritual weaknesses. The objective is not to simply verbalise لا الہ الا اللہ like many people do, even if they tell lies they do so by saying لا الہ الا اللہ whereas articulating لا الہ الا اللہ brings into focus God’s greatness and His fear and all His attributes. And as mentioned earlier the reality of لا الہ الا اللہ is only manifested through the Holy Prophet(saw).

Through abiding by Unity of God high morals, knowledge, culture, politics and excellence in other arts are instilled in man because the light of God is an antidote to all ailments. Thus, our motto which is appointed by God is لا الہ الا اللہ (There is none worthy of worship except Allah) the rest are all details which can be useful as advice. Dajjal is evident in full force in this age and his objective is to give precedence to worldly matters over faith.

Death of Sadeeq Akbar Rahman Sahib, son of Faizur Rahman Sahib.

An unwise question : “Can an omnipotent god create a rock so heavy even it cannot lift it?”

April 4, 2014

The viewers should access the following link to know the context of the discussion; and only then one should form one’s own sincere and independent opinion.

April 4, 2014 at 10:41 pm
@SABIO LANTZ : April 4, 2014 at 4:36 pm

“The Qur’an continually states that Allah is able to do all things (omnipotent). 22:6, 46:33, 57:1-5, 64:1-4 …”

Just to explain the verses quoted by you.

I have checked all the above verses using the same attribute of God ”qadīr” with the word “shayʾin”.

I take the first please mentioned by you “22:6”; and that will explain all the verses quoted by you.

dhālika bi-ʾanna llāha huwa l-ḥaqqu wa-ʾannahū yuḥyi l-mawtā wa-ʾannahū ʿalā kulli *shayʾin qadīrun

[22:7] That is because Allah is the Truth, and that it is He Who brings the dead to life, and that He has power over all *things;

*The Arabic word “shayʾin” is from the root word sh-y-e, means doing things which is unblemished to do and not doing a thing which is blemished to do.

Since God’s attributes are holy, unblemished and perfect; He is above all such unwise questions.

Thanks and regards

P.S. Sorry John some words did not appear in the previous comments; so I have to post it again. Please delete the previous comments just posted by me some minutes ago.

Thanks and regards

One should give reasons; must not ridicule God

March 27, 2014

March 27, 2014 at 11:45 am

People want God to become a toy for their imagination, and keep changing His attributes like an impersonator (God forbid) so that everybody’s fancy should be satisfied.

It is unfortunate indeed that people have not truly recognized their God. (al-Hajj 22:75)

Do try to understand that the less subtle a thing, the easier it can be observed through physical senses, and the more subtle it is, the harder it is for the physical senses to experience it. It is for this reason that when we try to learn about subtle things we have to depend on their properties and their behavior, rather than on direct observation.
How then is it possible for God—Who is not only Himself the most Subtle Being but is also the Creator of every subtle thing—to be seen by our physical eyes?

The objection of the critics that they will not believe in God until they see Him with their eyes is, therefore, absurd. It would imply that the critic either believes God to be a corporeal being, or at least wants God to assume a corporeal form so that he can be absolutely sure by seeing Him with his own eyes.

But the trouble is that there are millions of blind people in this world. Would they too not have the right to demand that God should assume some other material form so that they may taste, smell or feel Him? Does this not amount to ridiculing God? How shameful for a man who professes to have a mind and a heart!

If someone says that he would not believe in God unless he sees Him with his own eyes, all I should say is that if God could be seen with one’s eyes, He would not be worth believing at all. This is because in such case many of His other attributes would be falsified. He is Incorporeal, for instance, but in this case He would become corporeal. He is Infinite but would become finite and so on and so forth.

Moreover, if God were to adopt a corporeal and finite form for your sake, what is there to guarantee that you would not reject Him saying that you do not believe in a corporeal and finite God?

O God, how very Holy, Adorable and Perfect You are! Each attribute of Yours is guarded by another of Your attributes. When anyone attacks any one of Your attributes, Your other attributes—like vigilant and dutiful sentries—put such a person to shame.

We have seen how a critic tried to create doubt concerning God’s attribute of being Hidden, but His attributes of being Incorporeal and Infinite came forward at once and did away with the objection.

The Beauty of God lies in His being Hidden from our physical eyes and yet being apparent to us; He is Subtle but remains more evident and perceptible than material things. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not comprehend this subtle truth, for he stands on the brink of disaster.

Pages 12-14
“Our God” by Mirza Bashir Ahmad



March 27, 2014 at 12:08 pm
@JOHN ZANDE says: March 27, 2014 at 11:52 am

Don’t be angry please.

The original post did not offer any scientific reasoning.

Did it ?

The OP was also a form of hermeneutics and also apologetics of an Atheist?

March 27, 2014 at 2:58 pm

@JOHN ZANDE says: March 27, 2014 at 11:52 am

I believe in both religion as well as science both revolving in their own orbits with quite harmony like the sun and the moon.

Religion is a bigger circle informing us when there was no life, and when there will be no life; in between is our present; it guides us in it.

Science is a tool for our present dealing in a limited circle; does not cover the whole of our life.

It is the wish of my atheist friends to pitch it against religion; but their combatant denies accepting this challenge. Science has specific subjects it deals in; none is allocated for search for God or His attributes. Please don’t try to put this heavy burden on this mule.

Science had never existed if prior to it there would have not been the hermeneutics or the languages.

If one is against the languages, poetry; some other forms related to it; only robots have been needed, not the human beings.

I think you agree with it.

Don’t you?

Please have a little heart for the differing voice; it is not personal for anybody.


March 17, 2014

March 17, 2014 at 10:09 pm

@ John Zande
“The god of the Pentateuch (re-invented in the New Testament, then again revised in the Qur’an) is invisible and inaudible. It gives off no odour and has no perceptible taste. “Unquote

The Christian God (they wrongly name it Jesus) is not the One-True-God of Moses (OT); and definitely not of Quran. Quran’s God is not physical or spiritual; He is only attributive hence no human instrument could detect Him. Quran mention it:

[6:103] Such is Allah, your Lord. There is no God but He, the Creator of all things, so worship Him. And He is Guardian over everything.
[6:104] Eyes cannot reach Him but He reaches the eyes. And He is the Incomprehensible, the All-Aware.
[6:105] Proofs have indeed come to you from your Lord; so whoever sees, it is for his own good; and whoever becomes blind, it is to his own harm. And I am not a guardian over you.
[6:106] And thus do We vary the Signs that the truth may become established, but the result is that they say, ‘Thou hast learnt well;’ and We vary the Signs that We may explain it to a people who have knowledge.
[6:107] Follow that which has been revealed to thee from thy Lord; there is no God but He; and turn aside from the idolaters.

“There should be a God”: a stepping stone to certainty

February 8, 2014
Mirza Bashir Ahmad

Mirza Bashir Ahmad

Mirza Bashir Ahmad, an able son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi has written a good note on the above topic, I want that the viewers enjoy it reading:

Mirza Bashir Ahmad said:

“It is even more regrettable that most people who turn towards God do not get past the point that there should be a God. But there is no doubt that this is a stepping stone to the next level, that of certainty. In the spiritual world, this is the point where one begins to possess awareness. But if one stops short at this point and thinks he has achieved the be all and end all, then this same state can even prove dangerous for him. Many a time, man retraces his steps backward from this point and falls into the dark pit of atheism.

In his search for God, he ends up a disbeliever and dies in the same state. When he realizes that he has not been able to reach God despite all his efforts, and has merely succeeded in learning that there should be a God, he is overcome by disappointment and ultimately becomes an atheist. His is like a person who finds a room locked from inside and thus infers that there must be someone in it. He knocks and knocks and shouts for the door to be opened, but the door does not open, nor does he hear any sound from within.

Doubt begins to assail his heart and he starts considering the possibility that perhaps the door got accidentally locked from inside, or that the person inside is dead. At long last he loses all hope and turns back convinced that there is no one in the room.

If the comprehension that there should be a God does not lead to the certainty that there is a God, then the result will be nothing but despair and denial. Alas, how unfortunate would be the one who travelled such a great distance under the light of the feeble and dim lamp of one’s reason.

When the opportunity came to recognize his God with the help of the magnificent light of the spiritual sun of God, and he got so close to Him that His Holy attributes may envelop him like a mother’s lap, at that point, he should think that he had reached his final destination and left the track to spend the remainder of his life there! How can one’s heart be satisfied without achieving its goal, when God has placed in it the thirst for true knowledge which requires perfect conviction, and has endowed it with a burning fire of love that cannot be put out without the water of Divine love?

Even if you do not deceive others, you are nonetheless deceiving yourselves. Remember, in certain situations being misled can also bring you to the fold of criminals.

Therefore, fear God and do not just sit down on the fence and be the cause of your own spiritual death as well as that of others.

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