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Genders not applicable to the personage of One-True-God

March 6, 2014

Paarsurrey on “Triangulations” blog

“Defining Religion: Ninian Smart”
http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/defining-religion-ninian-smart/

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/defining-religion-ninian-smart/#comment-125306

1. paarsurrey
03/06/2014 at 10:48 am

You are in any angry mood; and you know in an angry mood no meaningful discussion is possible. I don’t discuss to win; but religion is part of my “self”; for that I have suffered a lot; but I don’t mind that.
When you are out of this mood; and you want to have a friendly discussion; we may do that and others are also welcome to participate. Then you may choose any of the above items; but there will be no debate; there will be only discussion open to everybody.

I like your blog.

I only made my comments on the thoughts expressed in the post of your blog, please.

2. paarsurrey
03/06/2014 at 11:01 am

@Takis Konstantopoulos : 03/06/2014 at 8:58 am

“Muslims (and Christians and Zoroastrians and Jews) refer to their god as if that god were male.” Unquote

I can only speak for Islam/Quran/Muhammad.

Quran mentions clearly that genders are not applicable on His personage:

[112:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[112:2] Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3] ‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[112:4] ‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[112:5] ‘And there is none like unto Him.’

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=112

Search for an Exalted Being 2

February 19, 2014

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/search-for-an-exalted-being/

The Holy Quran has, in this context, set forth an excellent illustration, to the effect that the world is like a palace, the floor of which is paved with smooth slabs of glass, under which flows a rapid current of water.

Every eye that beholds this floor mistakenly imagines it to be running water. A person fears to tread upon the floor as he would be afraid of treading upon running water, though in reality the floor is only paved with smooth transparent slabs of glass. Thus these heavenly bodies like the sun and the moon etc. are the smooth and transparent slabs of glass under which a great power is in operation like a fast flowing current of water. It is a great mistake on the part of those who worship these heavenly bodies that they attribute to them that which is manifested by the power that operates behind them.

This is the interpretation of the verse of the Holy Quran:

It is a palace paved smooth with slabs of glass. (The Holy Quran, an-Naml 27:45)

In short, as the Being of God Almighty, despite its brilliance, is utterly hidden, this physical system that is spread out before our eyes is not alone sufficient for its recognition. That is why those who have depended upon this system and have observed carefully its perfect and complete orderliness together with all the wonders comprehended in it, and have thoroughly studied astronomy, physics, and philosophy, and have, as it were, penetrated into the heavens and the earth, have yet not been delivered from the darkness of doubts and suspicions. Many of them become involved in grave errors and wander far away in pursuit of their stupid fancies.

Their utmost conjecture is that this grand system which displays great wisdom must have a Maker, but this conjecture is incomplete and this insight is defective. The affirmation that this system must have a creator does not amount to a positive affirmation that He does in truth exist. Such a conjecture cannot bestow satisfaction upon the heart, nor remove all doubt from it. Nor is it a draught which can quench the thirst for complete understanding which man’s nature demands. Indeed, this defective understanding is most dangerous, for despite all its noise it amounts to nothing.

In short, unless God Almighty affirms His existence through His Word, as He has manifested it through His work, the observation of the work alone does not afford complete satisfaction*. For instance, if we are confronted by a room the door of which is bolted from inside, our immediate reaction would be that there is someone inside the room who has bolted the door from inside, inasmuch as it is apparently impossible to bolt a door from inside by some device employed for the purpose from the outside. But if, despite persistent calls from the outside over a period of years, no response becomes audible from inside, our supposition that there must be someone inside would have to be abandoned and we would be compelled to conclude that the door has been bolted from inside through some clever device. This is the situation in which those philosophers have placed themselves whose understanding is limited solely to the observation of the work of God.

It is a great mistake to imagine that God is like a corpse interred in the earth whose recovery is the business of man. If God has only been discovered through human effort, it is vain to expect anything from Him. Indeed, God has, through eternity, called mankind to Himself by affirming: I am present. It would be a great impertinence to imagine that man has laid God under an obligation by discovering Him through his own effort, and that if there had been no philosophers He would have continued unknown.

It is equally stupid to enquire how can God speak unless He has a tongue to speak with? The answer is:

Has He not created the earth and the heavenly bodies without physical hands? Does He not view the universe without eyes? Does He not hear our supplications without physical ears? Then is it not necessary that He should also speak to us? Nor is it correct to say that God spoke in the past but does not speak now. We cannot limit His Word or His discourse to any particular time. He is as ready today to enrich His seekers from the fountain of revelation as He was at any time, and the gates of His grace are as wide open today as they were at any time.

It is true, however, that as the need for a perfect law has been fulfilled all law and limitations have been completed. Also all prophethoods, having arrived at their climax in the person of our lord and master, the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, have been fulfilled.

Pages: 82-87
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf
By Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

* This means that without the Word of God, contemplation of and foresight into the laws of nature cannot be sufficient.

Search for an Exalted Being

February 17, 2014

Search for an Exalted Being

Of the natural conditions of man is his search after an Exalted Being towards Whom he has an inherent attraction. This is manifested by an infant from the moment of its birth. As soon as it is born, it displays a spiritual characteristic that it inclines towards its mother and is inspired by love of her. As its faculties are developed and its nature begins to display itself openly, this inherent quality is displayed more and more strongly. It finds no comfort anywhere except in the lap of its mother. If it is separated from her and finds itself at a distance from her, its life becomes bitter. Heaps of bounties fail to beguile it away from its mother in whom all its joy is concentrated. It feels no joy apart from her. What, then, is the nature of the attraction which an infant feels so strongly towards its mother?

It is the attraction which the True Creator has implanted in the nature of man. The same attraction comes into play whenever a person feels love for another. It is a reflection of the attraction that is inherent in man’s nature towards God, as if he is in search of something that he misses, the name of which he has forgotten and which he seeks to find in one thing or another which he takes up from time to time. A person’s love of wealth or offspring or wife or his soul being attracted towards a musical voice are all indications of his search for the True Beloved.

As man cannot behold with his physical eyes the Imperceptible Being, Who is latent like the quality of fire in everyone, but is hidden, nor can he discover Him through the mere exercise of imperfect reason, he has been misled grievously in his search and has mistakenly assigned His position to others.

Pages: 82-87
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf
By Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/search-for-an-exalted-being-2/

How Science Proves That We Actually Don’t Exist

January 28, 2014

Paarsurrey says:

It is for this that I ask those Atheists who question me for the existence of the One-True-God; “Do you exist”; the way they will prove their existence; I would prove existence of the One-True-God.

It is, the communication between us that gives us the feeling that we exist. The One-True-God has communicated to human beings through the righteous persons (like Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus, Socrates, Muhammad, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) that we have the knowledge, among other reasons, that He exists.

If we deny the One-True-God , first we should deny our own existence.

Dean Richards

Yep, this is going to be fun! I will propose the most convincing theory on the origin of mankind you have ever read, backed up by the wonderful concept of science! You know… sort of anyway… Beware, though: there might be a high velocity of irony, philosophy and perhaps some subtle mockery ahead!

So… first of all, an issue which seems to have been chasing humanity through the ages is the issue of our existence. How can we possibly exist? This fundamental question has led to the emergence of hundreds, if not thousands of different religions, and, more recently, also to a lot of scientific research that began ever since Darwin put forward his controversial theory of evolution.

Now, the nice thing about science is that it can actually be reasoned against. Religion, on the other hand, is something that is hard, if not impossible, to disprove, as there seems…

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Atheists! My belief in One-True-God is very natural

January 20, 2014

I wrote following comment on http://maasaiboys.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/on-the-origins-of-gods/

@ archaeopteryx1 January 20, 2014 at 21:33

paarsurrey says: January 21, 2014 at 02:07

Further to my comments where I requested you “Now come to the arguments; please”; I have to add that I believe in the One-True-God very naturally; like I believe in me and my mother and father. I am an ordinary man in the street; with no claim to piety or scholarship. I do have a right to live my life as others have theirs. It is quite natural and reasonable for me to continue believing as such till somebody convinces me otherwise with observations and evidences.

If you have any evidences that the One-True-God does not exists; and that I and my mother and father never existed; you may like to present such evidences.

I therefore request you again to present just one argument; not a list of arguments, in this connection.

Others could also give the argument, please.

Thanks and regards

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“On the origins of gods”

January 19, 2014

“On the origins of gods”

I have written a comment on a post titled “On the origins of gods” @ the following blog:

http://maasaiboys.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/on-the-origins-of-gods/.

paarsurrey says:
January 20, 2014 at 00:20 : http://maasaiboys.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/on-the-origins-of-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-10464

It is just a guess work; or more accurately rather a leap in the dark. There is no evidence to support it.

Belief in the One-True-God is the natural and or default position; when one tilts to one side one believes in many god and when one tilts to the other side one denies Him.

This is done out of superstition and or ignorance; not out of any certainty or evidence. Doubt is also a position of ignorance not of evidence or certainty.

Atheists! Do you have any evidences that the One-True-God does not exists?

January 12, 2014

Dan Wilkinson has written a post on the “Patheos” blog on January 9, 2014 titled “Creationist Ken Ham versus the Truth”; the post could be viewed by the viewers of Paarsurrey blog at the following link:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/unfundamentalistchristians/2014/01/creationist-ken-ham-versus-the-truth/

I have contributed many comments on the post; some of them have already been published in my blog “paarsurrey” together with the comments of those who have commented on my comments; yet more are given below for the benefit of the viewers of this blog and the public:

paarsurrey @ Mike De Fleuriot

I believe in the One-True-God very naturally; like I believe in me and my mother and father. I am an ordinary man in the street; with no claim to piety or scholarship. I do have a right to live my life as others have theirs. It is quite natural and reasonable for me to continue believing as such till somebody convinces me otherwise with observations and evidences.
If you have any evidences that the One-True-God does not exists; and that I and my mother and father never existed; you may like to present such evidences; yet under no compulsion from me.
Regards

Rick_K @ paarsurrey

You have evidence for a mother and father that cannot be justified through any other explanation. The same cannot be said of your evidence for God.
If you were born not in a western country in the 20th Century but instead you were born in the highlands of New Guinea in the 14th Century, you would feel just as confident of the pantheon of animal spirits and tribe-specific deities as you are currently confident of the One True God. And again, that belief of those deities would be based on evidence very different from the evidence of your parents.
I’m just sayin’….

paarsurrey @ Rick_K

Please give your evidence that the One-True-God (Allah Yahweh Ahura-Mazda Parmeshwara Ishawara) does not exist; I won’t leave my present default natural position; unless there are strong evidence/s against it and I get convinced to it.

what would a god look like?

August 17, 2013

Paarsurrey says:
“we have to acknowledge that any existence outside of this universe is beyond our comprehension”

I agree with the above.
The truthful religion describes it like this:

[39:68] And they do not esteem Allah, with the esteem that is due to Him. And the whole earth will be but His handful on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be rolled up in His right hand. Glory to Him and exalted is He above that which they associate with Him.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=39&verse=67

Thanks

 

Can you provide an example of human thinking that goes beyond this universe?

 

 

I would like to quote here in this connection from Wikipedia, my virtual university:

“The multiverse (or meta-universe) is the hypothetical set of infinite or finite possible universes (including the historical universe we consistently experience) that together comprise everything that exists and can exist: the entirety of space, time, matter, and energy as well as the physical laws and constants that describe them. The term was coined in 1895 by the American philosopher and psychologist William James.[1] The various universes within the multiverse are sometimes called parallel universes.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

violetwisp

look_like

Religions generally present images of their gods, so there are lots of pictures to choose from. Some are based animals, and lots are imaginative mixtures of human, animal and verging on nightmare images. Google ‘hindu goddesses’ for a particularly fine selection.

The Jewish religion is quite clear about having a dislike of deity images, so the spin-off religions of Christianity and Islam haven’t had the opportunity to be quite so creative. Furthermore, the belief that man was created in the image of god, coupled with the idea of the human shaped man god Jesus appearing on earth, perhaps gives most Christians a reason to imagine an actual man with a hefty dose of supernatural powers, lurking invisibly somewhere behind the celestial curtain.

But is that what believers really think?  And for those who don’t follow any organised religion, but still have an urge to believe that a god exists, is…

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how do you think?

August 17, 2013

Paarsurrey says:

Hi my atheist friends!
I think It will make a good discussion.
When I think about the one true God, I think; no picture comes into my mind; that is the reason why we don’t need any picture or idol to grasp the personage of our one true God or his truthful messenger prophet named Muhammad.

Thanks

 

That’s interesting Paarsurrey, thanks for joining the discussion. Do you think you generally think more in words than pictures?

 

In dreams one sees the pictures; in everyday life I am not sure what we do; of course we see things that generate ideas and thinking; but if one has a conversation it is the words.

Thanks

  1. The first four verses of the first chapter of the truthful religion mentions the four fundamental attributes of the one true God; i give the same:

    [1:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
    [1:2] All praise belongs to Allah, Lord of all the worlds,
    [1:3] The Gracious, the Merciful,
    [1:4] Master of the Day of Judgment.

    http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=1

    Now when I ponder on these attributes;Gracious, Merciful, praiseworthy, Lord of all the worlds, Master of the Day of Judgment; all put in one personage in absolute terms; no picture comes to my mind. What I get is that I have a temporary consciousness for sure but there should be some personage who should have caused me this life/consciousness; that being should be conscious in absolute terms.

violetwisp

thinking

Apparently it’s not common knowledge that we don’t all think in the same way. Some of us think in pictures, some of us in words, and most of us use a variable combination of the two depending on what we’re thinking about. So, some of us can think of abstract concepts without doodling a picture in our head. An example of this might be, I don’t know, an all-powerful creator that exists behind the celestial curtain. There’s nothing to visually guess about such a being, so those of us who think in words to some degree, are probably happy not making up a picture in our heads to accompany the notion.

For any of you shocked by this information, or for any of you who might think I’m making it up, here’s a quote from Wikipedia to make it all sound more serious:

Visual thinking is the phenomenon of thinking…

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The one true God

August 4, 2013

        A poem in Persian written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the Promised Messiah, translated in English from his renowned book “The Brahin-E- Ahmadiyya” for the viewers of this blog:

        http://www.alislam.org/library/browse/volume/Ruhani_Khazain/book/Braheen_e_Ahmadiyya/#page/17/mode/1up

        Page-17 from the book: