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“Jesus in Japan”

August 28, 2017

Japan Jesus

Tomb of Jesus in Japan:

On the flat top of a steep hill in a distant corner of northern Japan lies the tomb of an itinerant shepherd who, two millennia ago, settled down there to grow garlic. He fell in love with a farmer’s daughter named Miyuko, fathered three kids and died at the ripe old age of 106. In the mountain hamlet of Shingo, he’s remembered by the name Daitenku Taro Jurai. The rest of the world knows him as Jesus Christ.
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-little-known-legend-of-jesus-in-japan-165354242/#DtWkHpDUlp534RrL.99
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Is Jesus separate from the father?

May 28, 2015

Please view and comment on my post at <www.religiousforums.com><Thread : Is Jesus separate from the father?>. One may join discussion

Jesus not G-d

May 11, 2015

www.religiousforums.com > <How can God be Jesus, and the father, yet Jesus not be the father?>

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/how-can-god-be-jesus-and-the-father-yet-jesus-not-be-the-father.176806/#post-4283209

  1. Post #2
  2. Topic: How can God be Jesus, and the father, yet Jesus not be the father?

    Paarsurrey wrote:

    Jesus was never a G-d. It is a wrong notion.
    Regards

    Post #4

Paarsurrey wrote:

You mean that Jesus was a manifestation of G-d like Abraham, Moses and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908? Please elaborate.

Regards

  1. Post #7

    Paarsurrey wrote:

    What do you mean by literal? Do you mean Jesus was not real?
    Regards

     Post #14

Paarsurrey wrote:

All prophets/messengers of G-d like Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Socrates, Muhammad and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) being in the image of G-d were endowed this deific nature; Jesus/Esa had no distinction whatsoever in this connection.

Regards

Prophets: Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Zoroaster, Jesus

July 4, 2014

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3827858-post80.html
Please click the above link to know the context of discussion and join the discussion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinayaka

“paarsurrey, I feel you will continue to project your idea about what a prophet is onto Hinduism, even if 100 Hindus came here and told you Hinduism doesn’t have prophets. So you will always have your ‘truth’ and we will always have ours.

This is the result of subconscious mind (memory mind) conditioning, and quite understandable. You’ve read or been told over and over that all religions have prophets, so have come to believe it.” Unquote

Paarsurrey wrote:

This sub-forum is not DIR; when somebody writes here, it implies that one wants an open discussion.

There are Hindu denominations who think that Krishna definitely made a prophecy for the latter days; and I quoted it from a Hindu site.

If some or many or all Hindus consider Krishna a god; not withstanding that approach, he made a prophecy for future that stands fulfilled now; so in this sense he is a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.

This prophecy has many parallels.

Likewise Jesus made a prophecy for the latter days; his Second Coming in the End of times; and everybody here knows that Christians consider Jesus a god, not withstanding that approach, he made a prophecy that stands fulfilled now, so in this sense Jesus is a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.

Likewise Buddha; though not all Buddhists worship him as god. I consider Buddha also a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.

Likewise Zoroaster; but his followers definitely don’t worship him and are monotheists and I have read many of their scriptures, very beautiful scriptures. So I have no reason not to believe in his being a truthful prophet and no reason not to believe in his truthfulness.

Likewise Moses; though the Judaism people don’t consider him god; but definitely in “image of G-d”. And Judaism people also wait for a Moshiach.I consider Moses also a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.

Likewise… and likewise and likewise…

Where do I err please?

Since some other non-Hindus; probably or most probably Christians also written here.

Should the globe be divided into many parts; one created and ruled by Krishna and another created and ruled by Jesus. Should we reasonably and rationally divide the humanity in pieces and the infinite pieces as there are said to be 32000+ denominations of Christianity and innumerable (exact figure not known, please tell me exactly) denominations of Hinduism and other religions .

While apparently there is no difference between a human in the East or human in the West and North and South.

My questions are addressed to everybody and open for response to everybody.

To make it clear; I am and Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Regards

Jesus’ core teachings mention of a loving One-True-God

February 28, 2014

Jesus’ core teachings mention of a loving One-True-God

“The Wrath of God”
http://gulliblestravelsdma.wordpress.com/
http://gulliblestravelsdma.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/the-wrath-of-god-2/#comment-3238

paarsurreysaid:
February 28, 2014 at 9:49 am

@Ruth:February 27, 2014 at 8:16 pm

Yet; it is not difficult to discern truth from the wrong.
Jesus mentions the core teachings of religions:

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40

It does not mentions of an unloving One-True-God.

I think you did not make any study of comparative religions under an appropriate principle; you just joined Atheism out of convenience.

Jesus was not “Son of God”

February 24, 2014

I have made following comments: blog “The Calladus Blog”; topic “What I believe”: link:

http://calladus.blogspot.ca/2010/05/what-i-believe.html
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5736821&postID=1351504333661851099&page=1&token=1393273621502

Paarsurrey:

@ Calladus : 23/2/14 5:31 PM (posted but still awaiting moderation by Calladus)

I take your first quote of Bible:

Matt 11:27

[26] Yea, Father; for so hath it seemed good in thy sight. [27] All things are delivered to me by my Father. And no one knoweth the Son, but the Father: neither doth any one know the Father, but the Son, and he to whom it shall please the Son to reveal him. [28] Come to me, all you that labour, and are burdened, and I will refresh you. [29] Take up my yoke upon you, and learn of me, because I am meek, and humble of heart: and you shall find rest to your souls. [30] For my yoke is sweet and my burden light.

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/47011.htm

Jesus was talking in parables and metaphors; as could be ascertained from the words “all you that labor”, “burdened”, “refresh”, “Take up my yoke”; so the words “Father” and “Son” are not literal but should be taken in symbolic form.

Now, here, you should reflect that you took a wrong view of Christianity; which is only a misnomer only because it teaches the teachings of Paul and Church and has nothing to do with the real teachings of Jesus.

You rejected the total picture of Christianity being irrational; and irrational it is for sure; this is because its many tenets that were invented by Paul and collaborated by the Church were irrational.

The interpretation of your research is wrong; the total could not be wrong if many of its components were not wrong.

Your study of Christianity is intact; but you could not ascertain right in it from the wrong in it, only because you could not think of a true principle that could have lead you to the correct conclusion.

Quran gives accounts of life of real Jesus; Bible presents mythical Jesus

January 30, 2014

I have written comments on the topic “The case for Jesus H. Christ” at the following blog:

http://maasaiboys.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/the-case-for-jesus-h-christ/

My comments can be accessed at the following link:

http://maasaiboys.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/the-case-for-jesus-h-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-1113

To understand fully the comments in the context should be read also.

paarsurrey says:
January 30, 2014 at 17:37
@Makagutu
“I think the Jesus whose story is told in the bible didn’t exist.”
I think the Atheists don’t have a list all person who lived in this world to check and verify therefrom that Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Socrates , Jesus existed or did not exist.
Do they have such a list? Please

paarsurrey says:
January 30, 2014 at 17:42
@ Makagutu
“I think the Jesus whose story is told in the bible didn’t exist.”
Paul carved out of thin air a fictional character and described that he died on the Cross; resurrected from the dead and ascended to the skies to sit on the right hand of God. Paul described such a man as god or son of god and named that character Jesus or Christ; surely such a person never existed; I agree with you.

paarsurrey says:
January 30, 2014 at 17:47
@ Makagutu
“I think the Jesus whose story is told in the bible didn’t exist.”
For the real life accounts of Jesus son of Mary; one may like to read Quran, one may start with Chapter named Maryam/Merium/Mary”:

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=19

Jesus’ true teachings are also incorporated in Quran.
Thanks

paarsurrey says:
January 30, 2014 at 17:55
@ Makagutu
“On assertion number three, there is none, repeat none, skeptic who Jesus appeared to. Neither did this apparition appear to Pilate, to the Pharisees, to the gentiles.”
This is a cooked story made by Paul and the likes to support the fictional character he made.
All above are general statements; not a single one has been mentioned with name; the list of names who saw and their antecedents have not been given by Bible.
I agree with you here

makagutu says:
January 30, 2014 at 19:05
Paarsurrey, you seem to me, no pun intended, to have a serious comprehension problem. If the Jesus talked of in the bible is fictitious, the one in the Koran is more so!

paarsurrey says:
January 30, 2014 at 19:43
@ makagutu
“If the Jesus talked of in the bible is fictitious, the one in the Koran is more so!”
Please don’t mind; I don’t agree with you.

Quran does not copy anything from Bible; it is a misconception.
Muhammad got the accounts of Jesus’ life and teachings from the One-True-God directly by Word of Revelation; that is the reason as to why Quran gives accounts of life of real Jesus and does not present the mythical Jesus carved out of thin air by Paul.

I know it is difficult for you to understand it.

http://maasaiboys.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/the-case-for-jesus-h-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-11130

An apologist lying through his teeth

January 25, 2014

Paarsurrey says:
I am here with you; Jesus was a Jew and followed the law given to Moses by the One-True-God; so if a Christian followed Jesus then he cannot go against the core teachings of Moses that are the same core teachings of Jesus; he was a perfect man of One-True-God and did not literally claim to be a god or son of god.

Random thoughts

If Jesus lived, he said[Mathew 5:17-19]

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

So, a christian who makes a claim to the contrary is cherry picking what to follow and is lying in the process.

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“Worldly Prosperity: The Crux of Christianity & Buddhism”: Triangulations

January 16, 2014

I wrote following post on “Triangulations” topic “Worldly Prosperity: The Crux of Christianity & Buddhism”; and I publish it in my blog for the benefit of viewers of my blog and for public.

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/worldly-prosperity-the-crux-of-christianity-buddhism/#comment-122739

paarsurrey
01/15/2014 at 6:54 pm

“efforts to acquire worldly prosperity are a common theme among the majority of Christians and Buddhists.” Unquote

I think I have to disagree with you here. Your above summary might be true about the present day Buddhists/Buddhism and or Christians/Christianity but surely not true about Buddha- who twice rejected the throne his father keenly offered him; and about Jesus whose Core Teachings are:
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40

I don’t think that Buddha or Jesus would agree to your surmise. Would they?
I think this needs revisiting of your post.
Thanks

The core teaching of Jesus

December 10, 2013

The core teaching of Jesus is as follows:

When Jesus was asked which of the commandments He esteemed to be the greatest, He replied,
‘“Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’”
Matthew 22:37 NIV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A37&version=NIV

Then Jesus added, “This is the first and greatest commandment.
And the second is like it:
‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”
Matthew 22:38-39 NIV

Jesus said further,
“All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:40 NIV