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Hell is not eternal; it is like a hospital where sins get cured

January 29, 2014

Please view the following comments with the comments in the context:

http://maasaiboys.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/knowing-the-mind-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-11069

paarsurrey says:
January 29, 2014 at 19:40
We understand from Quran/Islam/Muhammad that hell is not eternal; it is like a hospital where they get cured from their sins.

makagutu says:
January 29, 2014 at 20:57
it is like a hospital where they get cured from their sins.
How do you even entertain such a thought in your head?
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paarsurrey says:
January 29, 2014 at 21:30
@ makagutu
It is not my thought; we believe it on the basis of Quran/Islam/Muhammad.
Please read the following Q&A:
Q How long will a person remain in Heaven or Hell?
A Paradise is ever lasting.
Hell is like a hospital where patients are kept for a limited time to be cured of their spiritual ailments. They would be transferred to Heaven after having been cured of their spiritual diseases. Hell is thus for a limited period of time.
http://www.alislam.org/books/my-relig/part2.html

paarsurrey says:
January 30, 2014 at 00:24
@ makagutu :January 29, 2014 at 22:36
“Please read the following questions
1. When did heaven and hell come to be?
2. Why were they necessary?
3. Where are they?”
Answers:
1. The concept of Heaven and the Hell came into exist when the One-True-God willed to create man.
2. The concept of Junnah (or heaven) came into existence to reward those who do good deed; and hell is its opposite pole.
3. These are spiritual concepts (not material) and hence don’t require any place in the Universe.
For further information, please:
http://www.alislam.org/library/links/00000017.html

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To those who would like to gladly jump into the hell

July 1, 2013

I wrote posts on <http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/> under the thread <  The true religion invites comparison >. Sometime there are some off topic discussions also; here is one such instance. I give below some such posts on the topic of this post for the viewers of this blog.

(To see the context of a post, please, click the post #; that will take you to the full single view of the post in the forum, and then click the thread topic on the right upper corner, that will take you to the discussion that ensued in the forum.)

Paarsurrey wrote:

#102

Originally Posted by Philomath Omnist

Any god that offers hell (or some version of it) won’t have to toss me into it….I’ll gladly jump into it. I’d rather burn than worship a tyrant.

Paarsurrey wrote: What do you mean? Please elaborate.

#103

Originally Posted by paarsurrey

What do you mean? Please elaborate.

Philomath Omnist  wrote: Any god that offers hell, eternal punishment or anything akin to that, because of lack of belief in that diety or based off of finite actions won’t have to throw me into hell; I’ll gladly jump in.

#104

Originally Posted by Philomath

Any god that offers hell, eternal punishment or anything akin to that, because of lack of beflief in that diety or based off of finite actions won’t have to throw me into hell; I’ll gladly jump in.

Paarsurrey wrote: The one true God offers heaven; if one does not struggle for heaven; one gets abode in hell of one’s own choice

#110

Originally Posted by paarsurrey

The one true God offers heaven; if one does not struggle for heaven; one gets abode in hell of one’s own choice.

Philomath Omnist wrote: I’m not interested in heaven.

#112

Originally Posted by Philomath

I’m not interested in heaven.

Paarsurrey wrote : Nobody pushes one into it.

#114

Originally Posted by Philomath

Well that’s good lol. I have no interest in hell or heaven when I die I’d just like to remain dead.

Paarsurrey wrote: When one dies; then one cannot control one’s likes or dislikes; it is in the hands of the one who has bestowed life to every one of us.

I can only wish good luck to one.

#115

Originally Posted by paarsurrey

When one dies; then one cannot control one’s likes or dislikes; it is in the hands of the one who has bestowed life to every one of us.

I can only wish good luck to one.

Paarsurrey wrote: Thanks for the luck I guess, but there’s no evidence anything does happen after death.

Originally Posted by Philomath

Thanks for the luck I guess, but there’s no evidence anything does happen after death.

Paarsurrey wrote: Since nobody has returned to life after death; so the sort of evidence one wants is not on the table and will never be.

#117

Originally Posted by Paarsurrey

Since nobody has returned to life after death; so the sort of evidence one wants is not on the table and will never be.

Philomath wrote:Yep, and therefore I think no one will ever be able to truly know what does or doesn’t happen.

Doors of heaven are wide open

March 23, 2013

open door

The first chapter of Quran makes doors of heaven open for everybody.

[1:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[1:2] All praise belongs to Allah, Lord of all the worlds,
[1:3] The Gracious, the Merciful,
[1:4] Master of the Day of Judgment.
[1:5] Thee alone do we worship and Thee alone do we implore for help.
[1:6] Guide us in the right path —
[1:7] The path of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy blessings, those who have not incurred Thy displeasure, and those who have not gone astray.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=1

Paarsurrey‘s understanding:

1. The “Opener” or the “key” chapter introduces to the whole humanity with the one true creator God; who is all loving, gracious and most merciful, without blemish; and who is not a revengeful being with blemish.
2. Heaven is with Him for everybody and He is its Master; he does not have to consult with anybody to give one a favor for which one is entitled or to deprive one from a favor that one does not deserve; it is in His sole discretion to decide with justice; he knows hidden in the hearts of everybody.
3. To enter into heaven one has to pray to Him and to seek His assistance from Him that one could be one like Him; in such attributes that are possible for one to inculcate in one’s self and to acquire them with effort.
4. The easiest way in this regard for one is to follow those perfect persons- men who had been chosen by the one true Creator God from time to time in all parts of the world.
5. Besides the above, the other way is that one does not make ideal such persons who purposely went wrong and were cruel instead of being merciful, kind and loving sincerely.
6. And also not to follow those who went on the wrong path.

So, the doors of heaven are wide open; one need not go to hell.