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From where did the “wives” of Cain and Abel come?

November 14, 2019

From where did the “wives” of Cain and Abel come?

Adam was not the first human being, he got evolved in million of years his tribe along-with other tribes. Yes, Adam was was the first human being with whom G-d conversed directly.
Shujra*/Tree of life** or family tree*** or the tree of the knowledge [of good and evil (Hebrew: עֵץ הַדַּעַת)].*~and or simple social codes of Adam*^ was some people of some tribe from whom Adam was warned not to have any social links as they were disruptive/rowdy/troublesome/trouble-making/disorderly people.
No problem for wedding of Adam or his sons etc. Right, please?

**”The tree of life (Hebrew: עֵץ הַחַיִּים Tiberian‘êṣ ha-ḥayyîmStandardEtz haChayim)[1] is a term mentioned in the Hebrew Bible.
In the Book of Genesis, the tree of life is first described in chapter 2, verse 9 .”
Tree of life (biblical) – Wikipedia
*** “A family tree, or pedigree chart, is a chart representing family relationships in a conventional tree structure. The more detailed family trees used in medicine and social work are known as genograms.” Wikipedia
*~The tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Hebrew: עֵץ הַדַּעַת).
Tree of life (biblical) – Wikipedia
*^ “Âdam or Aadam (Arabic: آدم‎, romanizedʾĀdam) is believed to have been the first human and nabi (Arabic: نَـبِي‎, prophet) on Earth, in Islam.[1] Adam’s role as the father of the human race is looked upon by Muslims with reverence. Muslims also refer to his wife, Haawa (Arabic: حَـواء‎, Eve), as the “mother of mankind”.[2] Muslims see Adam as the first Muslim on Earth, as the Quran states that all the Prophets preached the same faith of Islam (Arabic: إِسـلام‎, ‘Submission‘ (to God)).[3]
In the Qur’an Adam is given the name by God known as the (Adam-I-Safi) or The Chosen One.[4][5]
Adam was on earth, God taught him how to plant seeds and bake bread. This was to become the way of all of Adam’s children.[12]
Adam in Islam – Wikipedia

Adam- man, evolved in millions of years

March 20, 2013

Evolution of man

Let us look into the etymology of the word Adam:

masc. proper name, Biblical name of the first man, from Hebrew adam “man,” literally “(the one formed from the) ground” (Hebrew adamah “ground”); cf. Latin homo “man,” humanus “human,” humus “earth, ground, soil.” To not know (someone) from Adam “not know him at all” is first recorded 1784.

Meaning and etymology of the Hebrew name AdamAdam

Traditionally, Adam is the first human male (Genesis 2:20), but here at Abarim Publications that tradition is under attack. See the name Eve or the article on The Chaotic Set Theory.

Adam is one of five words that indicate a man (words like dude, guy etc). This particular word indicates man as a being created from material; a corporeal one, as probably opposed to the non-corporeal angelic creatures who were created before Adam and who shouted for joy during the creation of the earth (Job 38:7).

The name Adam is the masculine derivation of the Hebrew root (‘dm and 26). The feminine derivation (adamah) indicates the ruddy earth found in the Middle East and means acre, ground, land.

The words (adom, adem) indicate the typical red color of that earth.

The name Adam means Earthling, or rather Corporeal One.

Other names from this same stock are , Edom – the nickname of Esau – which also meaning red, ruddy, and Admah.
Other names that have to do with words that mean man are Enosh (Mortal), Gabriel (God’s Guy), Methushael (Man Of God) and perhaps Zechariah (YHWH’s Male) and Ishi (My Man).

A name that may be a playful reference to the name Adam is Javan, Mud Man.

The first human being that got evolved in millions of years was a man; so he was named for his attributes, distinctively different from the other animals, as man or Adam.

I think science and the truthful revealed religions don’t differ with one another, science looks into man’s material and physical development while revealed religions go beyond it and they include in it man’s capabilities in ethical, moral and spiritual spheres without which man would hardly be above the animals.

How did Adam and Eve get their names?

March 16, 2013

Question and Answer Session (13 April 1996, part 1) with Mirza Tahir Ahmad – by the kids

Please see the video @ 10:18 for the question: “Why did Allah create human beings and how did Adam and Eve get their names?” and its answer.

Jesus celebrated marriage of Adam and Eve

February 26, 2010

Hi friends

I think friend Cloudlift is a reasonable person. If the Catholics like CrisA would have given rational, reasonable and logical arguments in favor of Celibacy; he must have understood them.

The wrong is in the creed; it is very obvious. The Catholics need to understand the wrong and cruelty in Celibacy throughout the ages.

What good has Celibacy done?

If Adam and Eve would have observed Celibacy to start with; neither Jesus would have born nor the Catholics into this world.

I think Jesus celebrated the marriage of Adam and Eve when he took Adam as his father; Jesus said he was a Son of Man, obviously alluding to the marriage of Adam and Eve, otherwise it had no meaning, in my opinion.

Celibacy is not a desirable thing and Catholics should reform themselves being wrong on their side, in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Bible presents Jesus as a confused man

November 11, 2009

Eddie wrote:

“Bible presents Jesus as a confused man…” perhaps you could give an example of such confusion.

Paarsurrey wrote:

Hi friend Eddie,

Quran presents Jesus as a straightforward man; who would say things in an unequivocal terms except when he was talking in parables or allegoric words, which is a form of expressions of the languages all over the world; which is understandable from the clues in the text; it is weird to take such parables as of fact or in real terms.

Jesus was a man – a prefect man like so many others in all the nations and all the regions of the world; and as such he was loved one of the Creator- God Allah YHWH that is why he might have sometimes expressed himself it in terms of son of God, if he ever said like that. He was also in perfect image of the Creator, like so many others in all the nations and all the regions of the world, which the simple minded deserting, unfaithful and superstitious disciples mistook as if he was god.

Jesus also mentioned himself as son of Adam or Son of Man; which only meant that Jesus approved that Adam and Eve were innocent ; whatever mistake they had committed, they had repented it and asked forgiveness from the Creator –God Allah YHWH, and they were forgiven. Jesus so much appreciated it he took Adam as his father.

Jesus abhors all such claims of being son of god or god or part of any trinity. These are only wrong concepts of the cunning Paul and the sinful and deserting disciples whom Jesus never trusted, in my opinion.

The confusion is not in Jesus but in the writings of the sinful scribes and cunning Paul; they projected him like a confused person, never telling things in straightforward manner.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

It is proved that Jesus was neither accursed, nor did he go to hell for three days, nor did he suffer death on Cross; so Jesus went to heaven in forty days, is proved to be wrong

June 5, 2009

Maaark says:

Thank you for the explanation of Ahmadi.

About mankind’s condition; I believe the Bible addresses three fundamental questions for mankind;
1-What is the nature and character of our Creator?
2- What is the nature of mankind and what is our problem?
3- Therefore what shall we do?

#2 the nature of man;

Do Muslims believe mankind (male and female) has a special relationship to God different from all other animals? Bible calls this made in the image of God. Evolutionists do not recognize this distinction.

What is sin? are all mankind prone to sin? Does sin separate people from God? Is there a special word or concept of sin in the Koran that is different from the Bible?

Does the Koran accept the Genesis account of Adam and Eve and their sin? (long question so sumerize)

Paarsurrey says:

I will give you a reply in brief:

1. Yes, Quran does specify a special relationship between God Allah YHWH and the human beings. The animals have been created for service and benefit of the human beings.

2. Yes, Quran does mention that the human beings could acquire in their limited beings, the attributes of God Allah YHWH; this is the same thing as saying in the image of God but never a god.

3. Quran mentions that human beings are apt to sin; to avoid from sins one needs constant help from God to uproot the sins before they grow up in our selves; and if we commit a sin then submissively ask forgiveness with a resolve not to commit the sin again. Adam did make a mistake but since he asked forgiveness, he was forgiven by God Allah YHWH. Sins are not transferable or are not herditary.

4. Quran does not mention that Adam or Eve were the first human beings born; Adam was the first human being honoured to have Converse of God Allah YHWH. Man evolved physically in billions of years till man reached a stange responsible to receive Converse with God.

The sins are actions done in rebellion of God Allah YHWH; when a human being does acts that are out of the image of God or the attributes of God; that could be described as a sin.

When off the image; man is obviously distanced from God; while his goal is to attain nearness of God; not physically, but attributively, one has to attain nearness of Him.

I think it will be appropriate here to quote from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Promised Messiah, and the Second Coming, to illustrate it further:

Apart from this, it was necessary that he should escape death on the cross, for it was stated in the Holy Book that whoever was hanged on the wood was accursed. It is a cruel and an unjust blasphemy to attribute a curse to an eminent person like Jesus, the Messiah, for, according to the agreed view of all who know the language, la’nat, or curse, has reference to the state of one’s heart.

A man would be said to be accursed when his heart, having been estranged from God, becomes really dark; when, deprived of divine mercy and of divine love, devoid absolutely of His Knowledge, blinded like the devil, he becomes filled with the poison of unbelief; when there remains not a ray of divine love and knowledge in him; when the bond of loyalty is broken, and between him and God there arises hatred and contempt and spite and hostility, so much so that God and he become mutual enemies; and when God becomes weary of him and he becomes weary of God; in short, when he becomes an heir to all the attributes of the Devil — and that is why the Devil himself is called accursed.3

It is clear that the significance of the word Mal’un, viz. accursed, is so foul that it can never apply to any righteous person who entertains love of God in his heart. Alas! Christians did not ponder over the significance of a curse when they invented this belief; else, it were impossible for them to have used such a bad word for a righteous man like Jesus. Can we say that Jesus’ heart was ever really estranged from God; that he had denied God, that he hated Him and had become His enemy?

Can we ever think that Jesus had ever felt in his heart that he was estranged from God, that he was an enemy of God, and that he was immersed in the darkness of unbelief and denial? If, then, Jesus had never been in such a state of mind, that his heart was always full of love and the light of Divine Knowledge, is it for you, wise people, to ponder whether we can ever say that, not one, but thousands of curses from God had descended upon the heart of Jesus with all their evil significance? Never. Then, how can we say that he was, God forbid, accursed?

It is a pity that once a man has given utterance to something, when he has taken his stand upon a particular belief, he is not inclined to give up that belief, however much the absurdity thereof be exposed. Desire to attain salvation, if grounded upon true foundations, is a praiseworthy thing, but where is the sense in having a desire for salvation which kills truth and which countenances, regarding a holy prophet arid a perfect man, the belief that he had as it were passed through a state in which he had been estranged from God, and in which, instead of unity of heart and unity of inclination, there had been produced a strangeness and aloofness, enmity and hatred; and, instead of light, darkness had surrounded his heart?

Let it also be noticed that this not only detracts from the prophethood and apostleship of Jesus (on whom be the peace of God) but it is also derogatory to his claim to spiritual eminence, holiness, love, and knowledge of God, to which he has repeatedly given expression in the gospels. Just look through the Bible; therein Jesus clearly claims that he is the Light of the world, that he is the Guide, and that he stands in a relation of great love towards God; that he has been honoured by a clean birth, and that he is the loved Son of God.

How then, in spite of these pure and holy relations, can a curse, with all its significance, be attributed to Jesus? No, never. Therefore, there is no doubt that Jesus was not crucified, i.e., he did not die on the Cross, for his personality did not deserve the underlying consequence of death on the Cross. Not having been crucified, he was spared the impure implications of a curse, and no doubt it also proves that he did not go to heaven, for going to heaven formed part of this whole scheme and was a consequence of the idea of his having been crucified. Therefore, when it is proved that he was neither accursed, nor did he go to hell for three days, nor did he suffer death the other part of the scheme, namely, that he went to heaven, is proved to be wrong.

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Jesus of Bible is hardly above the status of Adam; nevertheless both Adam and Jesus were innocent and perfect men

June 1, 2009

Maaark says:

I wonder what Muslims believe about perfection? Do you believe there are perfect people?

Paarsurrey says:

Yes, we Ahmadi peaceful Muslims do believe that all Messengers Prophets of God Allah YHWH were perfect persons; like Noah, Moses, Jonah and John the Baptist.

One such person was Adam whom Jesus adopted as his father; Jesus of Bible frequently said that he was Son of Man or Son of Adam. Jesus of Bible is hardly above the status of Adam; nevertheless both Adam and Jesus were innocent and perfect men.

I love Jesus, Adam, Moses, Noah, Jonah, John the Baptist as illustrated in Quran.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

The conception of John the Baptist and of Jesus was similar and was not at all any difficult for God Allah YHWH.

May 15, 2009

Wdednh says:

(2) What does Quran say about Mary?
(3) Does Quran mention virgin birth of JESUS CHRIST?
(4)And if Quran mentions the virgin birth, what does it say the virgin was conceived by?

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend wdednh

All the above three questions are inter-related. I would request you to first read my earlier posts on the subject; by accessing my blog and putting following words in the search column, at the lowest right hand column: “John the Baptist, Mary, Jesus”, the relevant posts would be displayed.

Please read those posts and if there is a further query it would be discussed. Sorry, for the inconvenience; only because of time restraint, please don’t mind.

I copy paste one such posts here:

Originally Posted by George:

God was responsible for the conception of Jesus. If He hadn’t interfered, Jesus would not have been conceived. God even determined that He would be male and He named Him.

Paarsurrey says:


Jesus was conceived the same way Adam was conceived and or John the Baptist was conceived, in my opinion. Adam was also named by GodAllahYHWH. John the Baptist was also named by GodAllahYHWH.

For your convenience I give here the text and the usual context from Quran:

[19:1] بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ
[19:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[19:2] ڪٓهيعٓصٓ
[19:2] Kaf Ha Ya ‘Ain Sad.
[19:3] ذِكۡرُ رَحۡمَتِ رَبِّكَ عَبۡدَهُ ۥ زَڪَرِيَّآ
[19:3] This is an account of the mercy of thy Lord shown to His servant, Zachariah.
[19:4] إِذۡ نَادَىٰ رَبَّهُ ۥ نِدَآءً خَفِيًّ۬ا
[19:4] When he called upon his Lord, a secret calling,
[19:5] قَالَ رَبِّ إِنِّى وَهَنَ ٱلۡعَظۡمُ مِنِّى وَٱشۡتَعَلَ ٱلرَّأۡسُ شَيۡبً۬ا وَلَمۡ أَڪُنۢ بِدُعَآٮِٕكَ رَبِّ شَقِيًّ۬ا
[19:5] He said, ‘My Lord, the bones have indeed waxed feeble in me, and the head glistens with hoariness, but never, my Lord, have I been unblessed in my prayer to Thee.
[19:6] وَإِنِّى خِفۡتُ ٱلۡمَوَٲلِىَ مِن وَرَآءِى وَڪَانَتِ ٱمۡرَأَتِى عَاقِرً۬ا فَهَبۡ لِى مِن لَّدُنكَ وَلِيًّ۬ا
[19:6] ‘And I fear my relations after me, and my wife is barren. Grant me, therefore, a successor from Thyself,
[19:7] يَرِثُنِى وَيَرِثُ مِنۡ ءَالِ يَعۡقُوبَ‌ۖ وَٱجۡعَلۡهُ رَبِّ رَضِيًّ۬ا
[19:7] ‘That he may be heir to me and to the House of Jacob. And make him, my Lord, well-pleasing to Thee.’
[19:8] يَـٰزَڪَرِيَّآ إِنَّا نُبَشِّرُكَ بِغُلَـٰمٍ ٱسۡمُهُ ۥ يَحۡيَىٰ لَمۡ نَجۡعَل لَّهُ ۥ مِن قَبۡلُ سَمِيًّ۬ا
[19:8] ‘O Zachariah, We give thee glad tidings of a son whose name shall be Yahya‡. We have not made any one before him of that name.’
[19:9] قَالَ رَبِّ أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لِى غُلَـٰمٌ۬ وَڪَانَتِ ٱمۡرَأَتِى عَاقِرً۬ا وَقَدۡ بَلَغۡتُ مِنَ ٱلۡڪِبَرِ عِتِيًّ۬ا
[19:9] He said, ‘My Lord, how shall I have a son when my wife is barren and I have reached the extreme limit of old age?’
[19:10] قَالَ كَذَٲلِكَ قَالَ رَبُّكَ هُوَ عَلَىَّ هَيِّنٌ۬ وَقَدۡ خَلَقۡتُكَ مِن قَبۡلُ وَلَمۡ تَكُ شَيۡـًٔ۬ا
[19:10] He said, ‘So it is.’ But thy Lord says, ‘It is easy for Me, and indeed I created thee before, when thou wast nothing.’

The conception of John the Baptist and of Jesus was similar and was not at all any difficult for God Allah YHWH.
It was the humble prayers of Mother of Mary and Zachariah which God Allah YHWH did accept and hence both the pious cousins were conceived and born naturally though.

Indeed God Allah YHWH is the greatest.

God could accept the prayers of the believers however impossible the prayers might seem. God could make an impossible as possible in a natural and easy way.

One must see here that Quran gives the text for a claim and also a reason thereof: Bible either won’t give a clear text for a claim in support of the Christians; and reason Bible just not have that, the Christians have to put words and reasons into the mouth of Jesus who even does not acknowledge to have accepted them.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love John the Baptist and his mother.


The Evangelists (Matthew, Mark, John and Luke) simply played with the teachings of Jesus and the Old Testament

May 10, 2009

Jesus of Bible is Jesus made from wax molded at whims of the Evangelists (Matthew, Mark, John and Luke)

Michelle says:

The statement of Scripture the average Jewish young man or woman was brought up on was Deut.6:4: “Hear O Israel! The LORD our God, the LORD is One”. It is in the light of this overwhelming assertion of Jewish monotheism that a claim to divinity by any Jew is to be viewed. What an astonishment it must have caused in the minds of His audience when this Jew Who came 1500 years after Moses claimed (even if indirectly) that He was of the same essence as Jehovah! Jesus, however, delighted more in calling Himself as ‘the Son of Man’ although it is John who, more than the other evangelists dared to call Him ‘the Son of God’. To be sure, the title ‘Son of Man’ carried with it the overtones of divinity although distinct from God as seen Dan. 7:13, 14. Jesus emphasized His humanity (by the use of this title) as that was more descriptive of the work He had come to complete. But we need to recognize that His work also necessitated His being God. If He had been only human, even
His human functions could not have had such eternal implications.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend michelle, miss of bombay

I think your writeup is long; please don’t mind, I would be replying it in portions.

I respect your faith.

I have to submit with all humility that to me, Jesus of Bible seems to be a helpless person in the hands of the confused and sinful evangelists. I think they carved their own Jesus from wax; they molded Jesus the way they liked and which served their own ends; having little care for Jesus or Jesus’ teachings or teachings of the Old Testament of which Jesus was a strict follower. Either they were men of poor understanding or they simply played with the teachings of Jesus and the Old Testament. Once they deserted Jesus physically as they fled away from the scene of Crucifixion; now they seem set to take revenge from Jesus’ teachings and his acts.

They were not decided about Jesus as to what he was; they were constantly in confusion, sometimes they described him Son of Man or Son of Adam, at other times they would describe him Son of God, yet another time they would say he was god. They would say he was born of Mary and hence Son of Mary; yet he was in the beginning and became flesh; and became his own father or husband of Mary. I don’t mind that; it is their insinuation or confusion; they had a right if they wanted to remain in a state of confusion.

One wonders, if they were real disciples of Jesus; as they want us to believe that Jesus was going to die only for three days and then he was going to become a living god. What need they had to run away. Were they hidden unbelievers? If they thought that Jesus was their god; what fear they should have had from the Jews or the Romans? What maximum would have happened to them in three days? At the most the Jews or the Romans would have killed them. Jesus becoming alive after three days; if he ever cared for the disciples of Bible, must have not only made them alive from the dead but must have rewarded them suitably also; like they had seen Jesus performing the miracle of making Lazarus alive from the dead, if it ever worked as per Bible.

I think they, the Evangelists doubted and never believed that Jesus had performed any such miracle or that he was going to perform now his biggest miracle of becoming himself alive from the dead.

I see the Evangelists (Matthew, Mark, John and Luke) standing in line with the Jews and not believing that Jesus showed any miracle.

Jesus of Bible admitted that the Jews won’t be shown any miracle except the sign of Jonah, if the Jews denied or Jesus did not show any miracle previously, the Evangelists deny his last Sign.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Promised Messiah, the Second Coming, rightly observes:

“I wonder what the Christians are so proud of! If they have a ‘God’, he is the one who died long ago and lies buried in Mohalla Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir. And if he has any miracles to his name, they are no greater than those of other Prophets, indeed Prophet Elijah showed greater miracles than he ever did. In the eyes of the Jews, Jesus (as) showed no miracles at all, and it was all deception and trickery.

This statement of the Jews is corroborated by Jesus (as) himself, for he says in the Gospels, “An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign, and there shall no sign be given unto it…” If Jesus (as) had shown miracles to the Jews, he would surely have referred to them on this occasion.”

The sinful writers of the Gospels were not trusted disciples of Jesus; that is why Jesus left them behind and did not take them along, when he went to India along with Mary, after being saved from a cursed death on Cross by the grace and mercy of Allah. Jesus died a respectful and natural death in India, at the age of about 120 years.

This is only what we see Evangelists doing, their tricky things, in the daylight of reason and rationality.

Jesus was a great man a Messenger Prophet of God Allah YHWH and so were his teachings; his mother Mary was a marvelous lady as per Quran.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran, not the mythical Jesus presented by the cunning and sinful Paul and the sinful scribes.

I respect your faith; you must be guided by your own conscience freely, this is what I believe sincerely without any intention of injuring anybody else’s feelings.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Allah forgives all sins. Verily, He is Most forgiving, Ever Merciful

May 8, 2009

Ivarfjeld says:

How will we manage to escape from our sins?

Paarsurrey says:

The sins are forgiven by God Allah YHWH when a sinner repents over his mistakes, asks forgiveness from God Allah YHWH and resolves not to do it again; this is a natural process, observed in every family, the parents forgiving the wrong doing of their sons and daughters.

If God forgives the sins then it is as if no sins were committed altogether.

This is established from OTBible right from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Jonah and John the Baptist. None amongst them said plainly that the forgiveness of sins would remain suspended till Jesus dies on the Cross. Not even Jesus said this things; it is only a weird and tricky theological philosophy of the cunning and sinful Paul that describes this new mythical creed of forgiveness of sins of the people depending on Jesus dieing a cursed death on Cross. It is only a revengeful creed, a cruel father cuts throat of his son, in the name of god, religion, love and justice. It has nothing to do with Jesus.

Quran also supports the concept of the Old Testament and confirms it:

[39:54] Say, ‘O My servants who have sinned against their souls, despair not of the mercy of Allah, surely, Allah forgives all sins. Verily, He is Most forgiving, Ever Merciful;
[39:55] ‘And turn to your Lord, and submit yourselves to Him, before there comes unto you the punishment; for then you shall not be helped;
[39:56] And follow the best Teaching that has been revealed to you from your Lord, before the punishment comes upon you suddenly, while you perceive not.’
[39:57] Lest a soul should say, ‘O woe is me in that I neglected my duty in respect of Allah! Surely, I was among the scoffers.’

I love Jesus, Mary and Muhammad.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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