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Jesus never read from the Christian Gospels (NT)

June 30, 2021

John Pavlovitz @johnpavlovitz· said on twitter:

Jesus was born in the Middle East.

He was Jewish.

He didn’t speak English.

He wasn’t white.

He wasn’t Evangelical.

He wasn’t a Republican.

He wasn’t American.

Heck, he wasn’t even Christian.

paarsurrey@paarsurrey1· commented on the above tweet and wrote:

I agree with you that Jesus was not a:

1. Pauline Christian

2. Jesus never attended a Christian Church

3. Jesus never read from the Christian Gospels.

Right?

Regards

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Holy War -the peaceful version- with reasons, arguments and peaceful dialogue

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“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

God talked to human beings of all times and all regions of the world

June 26, 2021

“Reading”

By arseniajoaquin

Do you read the Holy Bible? Why? Please let others know your views. Answers will be rated. May God bless you all!


paarsurrey

I revere and respect all the Revealed Books of all the Revealed Religions. It is a great thing that GodAllahYHWH talked to human beings; all His words are sacred and holy to me. I would search and love to find His Word from all the sacred books of the world. I read Quran, I read OTBible and I also read NTBible. I enjoy doing this, what a great thing!

I am an Ahmadi, a peaceful faith in Islam

OOO

Holy War -the peaceful version- with reasons, arguments and peaceful dialogue

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

Praying to God alone, doing good works to fellow humans and obeying His commandments is to love God

June 25, 2021
https://www.alislam.org/articles/philosophy-teachings-islam-study-guide/

“Do you know how to love GOD?”

By suzyangel08

How do u love God and are you sure you are loving him the right way?

paarsurrey

I know how to love God. By praying to Him alone and doing good works to the fellow humans and obeying his commandments is to love Him. Thanks

I am an Ahmadi, a peaceful faith in Islam

https://www.mylot.com/post/494205/do-you-know-how-to-love-god

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The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

God could do anything impossible

June 25, 2021
https://www.alislam.org/book/philosophy-teachings-islam/

“did u know the powers of God?

suzyangel08    

tell me what you know? 

paarsurrey

Powers of GodAllahYHWH are great, he can do anything good, he is unblemished so he does not do what is against His attributes. He is not a physical being as everything physical is his creation. He is above his creations, we know him because of his manifestation. He could do that is considered impossible by our prayers if it is not against His Word. Thanks I have a reason oriented faith; I am not a man with blind faith. I am an Ahmadi, a peaceful faith in Islam.

https://www.mylot.com/response/550995/3415529

OOO

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

Unity among religions could be achieved with reason, research, peaceful dialogue and pray

June 24, 2021

“The religion of one age is the literary entertainment of the next”

By pumpkinjam

We now accept things such as Greek, Egyptian and Roman mythology as exactly that, mythology. I am sure these, and other, ancient civilisations actually believed that their gods were real. So what about today’s religions? Do you think they will be the literally entertainment of the next age? That  people will come to consider Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc. as mythology?

nannacroc

When enough people learn to think for themselves then all religions will be thought of as myths and legends. I hope it does happen and then murder in the name of religion will end. But as someone once said, if there was no god, man would have invented him.

paarsurrey

It is politicians and fake people who work for inciting other people to kill each other in the name of religion. If one is sensible one could avoid such people. This is possible as GodAllahYHWH can ascertain right from wrong. The vested interest would be working for chaos; if not in the name of religion they would invent other tool to do it, sometimes in the name of democracy at other times in the name of equality. Man cannot invent GodAllahYHWH, rather He has created man and made him to listen to reason and see the truth path ahead and avoid the pitfalls of blind-faith. One should believe in reason and research and pray to find the true path. Thanks I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam ,working for unity of all revealed religions with peaceful means.

pumpkinjam

I agree that religion can make good history but what I meant was that we now accept that certain things are myths which would have been thought of as facts by previous populations so would that happen with current religions and, even if new religions are created, would such things as Christianity be considered as myths by future generations, even if they have another kind of religion?

paarsurrey

No, I don’t agree with you. I am an Ahamdi – a peaceful faith in Islam. I think that man will ultimately know his destiny and recognize his GodAllahYHWH. I believe that all revealed religions were truthful in origin, later man got lead astray. I believe that the unity among religions could be achieved by reason, research and pray. One should not have a blind faith, as that is inhuman, God has given us eyes to sea and insight to research, and common sense to communicate with one another with respect, humility and politeness.Thanks

https://www.mylot.com/comment/507067/2709340/1569114

OOO

Holy War -the peaceful version- with reasons, arguments and peaceful dialogue



The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

OOO

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If there would be many gods then there would be no system and hence no sciences

June 23, 2021

If there would be many gods then there would be no system and hence no sciences

Arguments for the singularity of a deity by Doombringer1000 in DebateReligion

paarsurrey 

I don’t agree with one, please. Only One-True-God is outside of the Universe in the sense that He has created it when it never existed and He has claimed it and there is no other claimant. If there is some other claimant, please mention it.

Regards

paarsurrey 

I don’t think my point is incoherent. Sciences are based on the system in the things or properties of them. If there won’t be any fixed properties or systems in the things there would be no sciences. This requires that some being has endowed these properties to the things in the universe. Right? Please Regards

paarsurrey 

We see that the Universe works in a system, this is possible only if there is only one God, if there would be many gods then there would be no system and hence no sciences. Right? Please. Regards

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Holy War -the peaceful version- with reasons, arguments and peaceful dialogue

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

Those who are not sure of non-existence of God must believe in Him

June 23, 2021

I don’t claim there is no God, but it seems that if there is a God, he doesn’t care about us by [deleted] in DebateReligion

paarsurrey wrote: 

One is not sure of non-existence of God so one must believe in Him. Is one sure of one’s own existence, please?

Regards

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Holy War -the peaceful version- with reasons, arguments and peaceful dialogue

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

God bestowed life to the humans as a testing time : “free will”

June 23, 2021

Where should society find itself eventually? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

A questioner [deleted] asked:

Top of Form

<What is “free will”?>

paarsurrey wrote:

God bestowed life to the humans as a testing time to believe in Him or not to believe in Him, to do or not to do good deeds.

Humans are not made accountable in this regards in this world, they will be accountable and answerable in the Hereafter. This is the free will. Right, please?

<History says the exact opposite. God (and the # of believers) gets smaller and smaller every time we learn something new about the reality we live in.>

This is also wrong. Please quote from some reputed, unbiased and with consensus source of History in support of one’s point of view.

Will one, please? I believe it is just wishful imagination of the non-believers of God.

Regards

paarsurrey 

Since human beings have free will, there would always be different shades of cultures.

However, humanity will be closer to God, and God believers will overwhelmingly exceed the non-believers, please.

Regards

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Holy War -the peaceful version- with reasons, arguments and peaceful dialogue

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

Is one’s “writing” or “communication” enough proof to me of one’s existence?

June 23, 2021

1.The truth is nobody knows if there is a God. So why should anyone believe in God? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]paarsurrey -4 points 3 years ago 

  • It is a wrong assertion. God has made converse with the truthful persons, their Word of Revelation provide knowledge about Him to the humans. The non-believers of God have failed to provide any proof of His non-existence. They are however free to deny Him as there is no compulsion to believe in Him. Regards
  • Does one believe in the unicorns, please? Regards
  • So, one does not believe in unicorns as they never existed. That is quite OK. Does one believe in one’s own existence, please? Regards
  • I’m as certain about my existence as I can be
  • Kindly give evidence of one’s existence to us, please. Will one, please? Regards
  • I did not mention the unicorns to start with. One who mentioned them does not have any evidence of their existence, so his argument was invalid, please. Regards
  • I never gave anything dubious, for sure. God has made Converse with the truthful persons in all ages and regions, which confirm He exists. There is no compulsion for a person to believe in Him. God exist irrespective one believes in Him or does not believe in Him. God does not need that He should be believed in. It is the humans who need Him, please. Regards
  • <Kindly give evidence of God’s existence to us, please>
  • God’s many attributes are mentioned in Quran. some of them are: [57:4] He is the First and the Last, and the Manifest and the Hidden, and He knows all things full well. https://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=57&verse=0 Manifest or Evident does not need to be proved. God is Evident and exists irrespective of if one believes in Him or does not believe in Him. He does not need to be believed by others and that does not mean that He does not exist. So He is to be believed by the humans very naturally as they believe in the existence of themselves. Right, please? Regards

8.The truth is nobody knows if there is a God. So why should anyone believe in God? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]paarsurrey 2 points 3 years ago 

Top of Form

<So by writing this reply I’m proving my existence as much as I can.>

Does one mean that if one’s “writing” or communication to me is enough proof of one’s existence, please? Regards

9.The truth is nobody knows if there is a God. So why should anyone believe in God? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]paarsurrey 1 point 3 years ago 

My writing to you is proof

Thanks for confirming that communication could be a profound evidence of one’s (your) existence though we have never met with one another or never seen one another or never touched one another. I witness God communicated with Muhammad and in our times with Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 and told them things that have happened exactly as they told, so it makes evident that God exists. Right, please?

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Holy War -the peaceful version- with reasons, arguments and peaceful dialogue



The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2


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