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Was Bahaullah a “Bahai”, please?

May 4, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/was-bahaullah-a-bahai-please.220052/page-7#post-6091444

#124 paarsurrey

Yes, he was a born Shia-Twelver-Muslim, got converted to Babi sect of Twelver-Shia-Muslim. When he married Gawhar Khanum he might have been still as such. We cannot say for sure of what religion he became in post-Iqan period. May be he had none at all,as he got Covenant from others, yet he was not a part of it, others ascribed Bahaism to him, but he never said his religion’s name was “Bahaism”. Right, please?

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Why should we not listen to the Babi-Twelver-Shia-Muslims, the other side of the picture, please? At least there are two of them here in the Forum, if not many.

Right, please?

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#129 paarsurrey

Jesus was a Jew all through his life.
Christ was a mythical figure existing in Egyptians, Romans and Babylonians it has nothing to do with Jesus or his teachings. Pauline-Christianity is what has been described as “Pagan-Christ”-ianity.
Jesus’ case of being “First-Christian” is therefore a fallibility of Bahaullah and Abdul-Baha, Shoghi Effendi and UHJ.

Bahaullah’s case is ,therefore, different, please. Bahaullah was neither a “First-Bahai” nor a “Bahai” nor a Muslim. During the post-Iqan period, Bahaullah had perhaps no-religion. Right, please?

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#131 paarsurrey

Jesus was a Jewish-Prophet-Messenger of G-d, not at all a Christian one.

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Christ was a mythological figure of pagans of Babylon, Egyptians and Romans

May 4, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/will-the-anti-christ-be-evil.220298/page-2#post-6091424

“Why do you speak of “pagan Christ”??”

#23 paarsurrey

The Christ was a mythological figure of pagans of Babylon, Egyptians and Romans**. It had got nothing to do with the Messiah or Moshiach/Mashiach* of Judaism.

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  1. * In Jewish eschatology, the term mashiach, or “Messiah”, refers to a future Jewishking from the Davidic line, who is expected to be anointed with holy anointing oil and rule the Jewish people during the Messianic Age.
Messiah in Judaism – Wikipedia
2.** Much of Jesus’s traditional iconography is apparently derived from Mediterranean deities such as Hermes, Asclepius, Serapis, and Zeus and his traditional birthdate on 25 December, which was not declared as such until the fifth century, was at one point named a holiday in honor of the Roman sun god Sol Invictus. At around the same time Christianity was expanding in the second and third centuries, the Mithraic Cult was also flourishing. Though the relationship between the two religions is still under dispute, Christian apologists at the time noted similarities between them, which some scholars have taken as evidence of borrowing, but which are more likely a result of shared cultural environment. More general comparisons have also been made between the stories about Jesus’s birth and resurrection and stories of other divine or heroic figures from across the Mediterranean world, including supposed “dying-and-rising gods” such as TammuzAdonisAttis, and Osiris, while the concept of “dying-and-rising gods” has received criticism.
Jesus in comparative mythology – Wikipedia