Archive for April 29th, 2019

Was Jesus Crucified or Not? No, never

April 29, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/was-jesus-crucified-or-not.217361/page-11#post-6085674

#204 paarsurrey

Was Jesus Crucified or Not?

One may like to read my post #638 in another thread, please.
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Craftiness of Jesus’ death on Cross

April 29, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/did-jesus-die-and-rise-from-the-dead.220049/page-32#post-6085666

shmxxxx said: 
His heart wasn´t beating, he wasn´t breathing , he had no blood pressure, his body temp, was way below the temp that causes death, his brain had no oxygen for a long period of time.

There is no completely about it, you are either dead or you are alive.

paarsurrey said: 
How does one know of all/each of these things. Just guessing, please?

This seems somebody’s craftiness. There were no such instruments and or doctors/physicians to check:

  1. His (Jesus’) heart wasn´t beating
  2. he wasn´t breathing
  3. he had no blood pressure
  4. his body temp, was way below the temp that causes death
  5. his brain had no oxygen for a long period of time.

So, please make a search as to who wrote such article and which reputed magazine published it and on what basis these point were made. May be it is also from the “Abode of Myth”.

Anybody to research for it.

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The technique of “All is fair in love and sales ” of Bahaullah

April 29, 2019

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https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/was-jesus-crucified-or-not.217361/page-11#post-6085402

So then, what’s the big deal that Baha’is believe the Virgin Birth and the Crucifixion of Jesus? They reject pretty much everything else about what the NT claims to have happened.” Unquote.

#203 paarsurrey
Don’t worry, please.
It is simple the technique of “All is fair in love and sales ” of Bahaullah. At one hand he agrees with the Christianity and on the other he sells his own God-Head, Manifestation of God and Bahaullah’s being Second-Coming of Jesus.
This is my understanding when I am reading Kitab-i-Iqan, the so called “The Book of Certitude” of Bahaullah.

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Whatever the translation, Quran corrects it.

April 29, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/was-jesus-crucified-or-not.217361/page-11#post-6085395

Ellexxxxxxx said: 

#202 paarsurrey

Nobody’s translation is perfect. No translation of Quran is Word of G-d, the Word of G-d is text of Quran in Arabic.
Whatever the translation, Quran corrects it if the reader understands it from the context verses and the verses in other chapters of Quran. Every translation of Quran whether done by a Non-Muslim or Muslim, Shia or Sunni or whatever, if it is checked with the above principle derived from the Quran itself guides the reader perfectly. No doubt remains if a sincere and unbiased search is made and pondered intently. For the test case we can take this very Verse of Quran 4:157-158. Right, please?

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Jesus did not die a cursed death on Cross – Quran Sura 4:157-158 explains

Was Jesus Crucified to death or Not? No, never.

April 29, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/was-jesus-crucified-or-not.217361/page-10#post-6084945

#188 paarsurrey

Was Jesus Crucified or Not?

No, Jesus did not die on the cross.
Bahaullah’s siding with the Pauline-Christianity exposes Bahaullah’s “infallibility” and makes him a fallible human being.

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“For what its worth, Baha’is believe Christ was crucified.”

#192 paarsurrey

It is wrong understanding of the Quran verses. Bahaullah was not a well-grounded in knowledge person of Quran, so he understood it wrongly.

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#193 paarsurrey

I always also defend Bahaullah’s followers in connection with their right to believe in whatever they want to believe but in relation to Quran, Bahaullah had a shallow knowledge of Quran, that is my point, please.

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