Archive for April 21st, 2019

Was Bahaullah a “Bahai”, please?

April 21, 2019

Religious Forums

#1 paarsurrey,

Was Bahaullah a “Bahai”, please?
Bahaullah was sure not a “Bahai” as per the core book of Bahaullah named by him as “Kitab-i-Iqan”.

Jesus was not a “Christian”, he was a Jew, he was “Baptized” posthumously as virtually being a follower of a new religion “Christianity” by Paul/Church and or the associates.
Thread open to all religions or no-religions.



” It should come as no surprise that Bahá’u’lláh’s respect for the Qur’an was heartfelt and genuine. Bahá’u’lláh was, after all, a Muslim.”
Visiting Assistant Professor, Michigan State University, buckc@msu.eduKALIMÁT PRESSLOS ANGELES
Symbol & Secret: Qur’an Commentary in Baha’u’llah’s Kitab-i Iqan (1995/2004)



“Love and Sales”: Bahaullah and “Iqan”

April 21, 2019

Religious Forums

#145 paarsurrey

Well that is everybody’s birth-right, whether a divine or not a divine, with reason or without reason. The pertinent question here is whether Kitab-i-Iqan was revealed in the sense Quran was revealed to Muhammad?

Muhammad kept Word of Revelation from G-d (Quran) separate from his own conversation with his companions and instructions to them .

Muhammad forbade Muslims to write anything from him , other than Quran, as long as Quran was being revealed so that it is not mixed up. It was for this that Hadith was written 250/300 years after him.

It is not of much significance that Iqan was written/dictated by Bahaullah in a night , or in a day and a night, or within two days or so. The substance or its contents is/are important which Bahaullah did not in an unequivocal manner claim ,in Iqan, was revealed on him from G-d.

In the sense Quran was revealed on Muhammad; Iqan was not, emphatically not, revealed on Baha’ullah from G-d. Quran is authored by G-d but Iqan is not authored by G-d.
The contents of Iqan also suggest that Bahaullah simply employed the “all’s fair in love and sales”*technique and the contents are not meaningful enough otherwise.


*#1 siti

The Pagan Christ (2)

April 21, 2019

Religious Forums

Rxxxxxx said: 

“just borrowing a few beliefs from Paganism”.

#13 paarsurrey

sorry, these were not just a few unimportant belief., Paul borrowed the core beliefs of the Modern-Christianity from “Paganism”. Instead of making pagans followers of Jesus’ and his teachings, Paul cleverly made the “sheep” followers of Paganism in the name of Jesus. Jesus never authorized Paul to do such wrong acts. It is making Christianity an Anti-Christ, not a trivial thing at all. If truly understood, it makes Paul the “Wolf in the sheep’s clothing”* as Jesus foretold . Right, please?
Sorry, no disrespect intended to anybody’s faith, they may continue believing whatever they want to.



*Matthew 7:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 7:15 – King James Version