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The Pagan Christ

April 20, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/the-pagan-christ.220001/#post-6073824

#5 paarsurrey

The Pagan Christ

Paul hijacked Jesus’ true teachings and replaced then with the pagan teachings and the “Sheep”, unaware of this, were made pagans. This was all done in the name of Jesus:

“such as virgin birth, deity father, star in the east, raising of the dead, descent into hell, crucifixion, resurrection, and others. Harpur claims that virtually all words and actions attributed to Jesus in the gospels “originated thousands of years before.”[4]
The Pagan Christ – Wikipedia
The question arises, was Paul the seed of the Anti-Christ that grew up and spread into the world as Christianity?

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Add: Jesus is most likely a continuation of Osiris and Dionysus : DebateReligion

#7 

Bahaullah has revealed! (3)

April 20, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/bahaullah-has-revealed.219327/page-8#post-6074353

#142paarsurrey

 

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s all claims are within Islam/Quran/Muhammad, he started no new Religion while Bahaullah’s claims are outside of Islam/Quran/Muhammad, he started a new Religion, as his followers claim about it, yet he provided no name for it.
But we are discussing here that Bahaullah did not in a clear-cut manner claim in Iqan that Iqan was a Word of Revelation from G-d, he just wrote it as any human being would write and yet not claim that its contents have been revealed from G-d. Iqan is a brain-child of Bahaullah, not from G-d. Right, please?

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Was Bahaullah a well-grounded in knowledge people of Quran?(3)

April 20, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/was-bahaullah-a-well-grounded-in-knowledge-people-of-quran.219912/#post-6072055

#9 paarsurrey

Which one of these one means?:

237 And yet, they themselves testify to this verse: “None knoweth the interpretation thereof but God and they that are well-grounded in knowledge.” 13

Bahá’í Reference Library – The Kitáb-i-Íqán, Pages 201-220

16 Even as He saith: “None knoweth the meaning thereof except God and them that are well-grounded in knowledge.” 15 And yet, they have sought the interpretation of the Book from those that are wrapt in veils, and have refused to seek enlightenment from the fountain-head of knowledge.

Bahá’í Reference Library – The Kitáb-i-Íqán, Pages 3-41

199 Those words uttered by the Luminaries of Truth must needs be pondered, and should their 182 significance be not grasped, enlightenment should be sought from the Trustees of the depositories of Knowledge, that these may expound their meaning, and unravel their mystery. For it behooveth no man to interpret the holy words according to his own imperfect understanding, nor, having found them to be contrary to his inclination and desires, to reject and repudiate their truth. For such, today, is the manner of the divines and doctors of the age, who occupy the seats of knowledge and learning, and who have named ignorance knowledge, and called oppression justice.

Bahá’í Reference Library – The Kitáb-i-Íqán, Pages 161-200

Well, the above are not exactly as mentioned by our friend* @aaaaaaa , “none has the true authority to interpret the Quran except God Himself.”

Maybe he had something other than these in his mind, please.

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*vide post #2 

#11 paarsurrey

While we wait, what exactly was in the mind of our friend @axxxxxxx ?

The references I quoted in post #9 do not given any unequivocal authority to Bahaullah to interpret verses of Quran going outside from the Quran. After-all Bahaullah was not a god, he was just a human being with all the limitations the human beings have. Right, please?

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