Jesus’ First and Second Golden Rules

The viewers should access the following link to know the context of the discussion; and only then one should form one’s own sincere and independent opinion.

paarsurrey says:
April 6, 2014 at :

@Matt) Brisancian : April 3, 2014 at :
“I do not disagree with the Golden Rule in any way. I think that it is a fine principle to have central in a moral framework.
But it can be found in nearly all cultures.
It is not unique to the Abrahamic religions in any way. Its a principle derived from our intrinsic nature as a social species, the realization of how to best create a just and functioning society. Eastern religions had it before Christianity. The Egyptians had it before Moses I believe. Everyone has arrived at this.
No divine appeal is necessary.
And the fact that it is in the bible doesn’t in the slightest demonstrate that those texts had a connection to divine authorship.” Unquote

I Googled for the Golden Rule and got the following from Wikipedia:

“The Golden Rule or ethic of reciprocity is a maxim,[1] ethical code or morality[2] that essentially states either of the following:

• One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself. (Positive form)[1]
• One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated (Negative form, also known as the Silver Rule).[1]

This concept describes a “reciprocal”, or “two-way”, relationship between one’s self and others that involves both sidesequally, and in a mutual fashion.[3][4]”

You will please note that Jesus mentioned two Golden rules together in the core teachings; I repeat again:

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40

You have given comments about the second one that it is common in all cultures but you have not commented on the first Golden Rule.

You observation is correct that (the Second Golden Rule) it is found in almost all-religions and adopted by Atheists/Agnostics/Humanists also.

The religions who have most mentioned it; I ascertain from the space allotted to it by Wikipedia and checked by Word Count is somewhat as follows:

Islam 1124 words: Christianity 843 words: Judaism 630 words

Others are much less; Atheism is far behind.

Does this indicate that humanism is not limited to Humanists only?

Now about the First Golden Rule:

“Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind”

Do you still believe in the First Golden Rule mentioned by Jesus and Moses? Please elaborate yourself fully on it.

Thanks and regards

paarsurrey says:
April 6, 2014 at :

@(Matt) Brisancian :April 6, 2014
“The first is not generally called “the golden rule” in the US.
Neighbors objectively exist, as is easily demonstrated. Gods on the other hand are simply hypothetical constructs, until and if someone can provide actual and conclusive evidence. So I don’t think much of it.”Unquote

Thanks for your response.

I think you mentioned “God’s Words, I remain convinced; can stand very well on their own.”

What is its context? Please

Don’t you think there is some contradiction in your concepts?

Please elaborate.

This is just a friendly discussion.



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