“You heathens, time is now to convert to Islam”

Paarsurrey says:

I never called you or anyone else as “heathens”. Did I?

I don’t want to convert you to Islam unless you are convinced heart and soul.

makagutu

  • paarsurrey says:

    “In verse 8: 52″
    I give the verse with the verses in the context:

    [8:51] And if thou couldst see, when the angels take away the souls of those who disbelieve, smiting their faces and their backs, saying: ‘Taste ye the punishment of burning!
    [8:52] ‘That is because of that which your hands have sent on before yourselves, and knowthat Allah is not at all unjust to His servants.’
    [8:53] Their case is like the case of the people of Pharaoh and those before them: they disbelieved in the Signs of Allah; so Allah punished them for their sins. Surely, Allah is Powerful and severe in punishing.
    [8:54] This is because Allah would never change a favour that He has conferred upon a people until they change their own condition, and know that Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
    [8:55] Their case is like the case of the people of Pharaoh and those before them: they rejected the Signs of their Lord, so We destroyed them for their sins. And We drowned the people of Pharaoh, for they were all wrongdoers.
    http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=8&verse=46

    There is no mention of slavery in them. I don’t find it in these verses. Please mention where do you see it.

  • paarsurrey says:

    “there is nothing in the Koran that warrants enslavement of another. A look at Surat 8 will dissuade anyone of such a notion ”

    You mention chapter 8; don’t give the verse number; please provide it for good discussion.

    Thanks

  • paarsurrey says:

    “that there is a god, and that this god chose one dumb fellow to reveal to his word, in Arabic, the dumb fellow then got some idle typist to listen to his rambling and together they compiled a holy[sic] book.”

    It is wrong; Quran was not collected this way. I think you people should know as to how Quran was collected. I give a link, try reading it, just for information:
    Pages 354-368
    http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Introduction-Study-Holy-Quran.pdf

    At least one should have correct information; only then one could discuss meaningfully.

    Thanks

Random thoughts

Friends, if, the resident muslim apologist on my blog, Paarsurrey is to be believed, then it is inhuman to ridicule ideas people believe in and you are not a true humanist. These beliefs are, but not limited to, believing that there is a god, and that this god chose one dumb fellow to reveal to his word, in Arabic, the dumb fellow then got some idle typist to listen to his rambling and together they compiled a holy[sic] book.

He wants, you and me, to believe, as his responses to this post, suggest, that Islam is submission to god with reason. Yes, you read that clearly.  What reason, apart from being born in a certain geographical area, to believing parents and being too lazy to inquire or not being exposed to contrary ideas would one have for submitting to god?

Our apologist is a kindly gentleman who also…

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