Of shifting the burden of proof by Atheists

I give just comments of friend Debilis and my comments on the post <http://fidedubitandum.wordpress.com/2013/07/18/arguing-with-preschoolers/> by Debilis;  to  view comments of Keith Pinster, please click on the date of his comments:

  • Debilis
    July 24th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    I’d agree that I ought to give a reason to believe in something other than the material. In fact, I’ve done exactly that in many places in this blog (and elsewhere).

    But the point is that you can’t simply reject those points simply by asserting that they are wrong. You need to give a reason.

    This is where burden of proof gets abused. Yes, I should offer reasons, and I do. But this doesn’t mean using the phrase burden of proof means that the negative case doesn’t need to actually address those reasons.

    But, when it comes to the assertion that only the physical senses, and not other experience is valid, it is indeed the materialist who has the burden of proof. This is a particular claim–that there is something validating in physical senses that does not exist in other experience.

    You are free to make that case (and I will address it, rather than simply demand that you offer more proof), but you do need to make it.

    This is preaching a dogma, unless you can provide some reliable evidence that only the physical senses, and not other experience, are valid. I know of no such evidence, but am willing to be corrected on this.

    The “fairy-tale” you seem to be accepting (though I’d personally rather use more neutral terms). Is the idea that physical experience is trustworthy in a way that other experience is not.

    Personally, I’m inclined to accept experience until I have a good reason not to. But let me know if you’d disagree with that.

    • paarsurrey
      July 27th, 2013 at 5:48 am

      They- the New Atheist won’t reply, in my opinion; they don’t have a single reason to offer. They shift burden of proof to others while they are engaged preaching their dogma; and if insisted for a reason, they will come to foul words. They are a separate class/group/section/denomination of the Atheists and should be identified distinctly.


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