The Pharisees were Jews; had they noticed that Jesus had claimed to be a god, it must ‎have been written also in the book of the Jews? ‎

http://thechristianwatershed.com/2009/07/22/a-reply-to-a-muslim-the-deity-and-death-of-‎jesus/‎

Now coming to the second issue:‎

Paarsurrey said:‎

‎“The truth, in my opinion, is that Jesus was not God; he never proclaimed as such, there ‎are no direct quotes from him in this regards. God talked with Jesus and revealed His ‎word on him, He chose Jesus his Messenger/Prophet/Messiah, Jesus was not a son of ‎God.”‎

Joel said:‎

Ah, but He most certainly did make the claim that He was God. Though He never goes ‎throughout ancient Israel saying, “Hey, I’m God,” He does many things and says many ‎things that assert His claim to divinity – and the Pharisees noticed it. Let us look at some ‎of the evidence:‎

Paarsurrey says:‎

Hi fried Joel

Please quote from Jesus; not from what the sinful and unfaithful scribes, who deserted ‎Jesus when he most needed them.Later they sided with Paul who was an enemy of Jesus ‎and his friends. ‎

Jesus never could utter such words that he was a god. You say the Pharisees noticed it; I ‎don’t agree with you. The Pharisees were Jews; had they noticed it, it should have been ‎written also in the book of the Jews? Please quote from Jewish source that the Pharisees ‎noticed it.‎

Jesus denies of this claim as rightly quoted by Quran from Jesus:‎

‎[5:117] And when Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary, didst thou say to men, ‘Take ‎me and my mother for two gods beside Allah?’”, he will answer, “Holy art Thou. I ‎could never say that to which I had no right. If I had said it, Thou wouldst have ‎surely known it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy ‎mind. It is only Thou Who art the Knower of hidden things.‎
‎[5:118] “I said nothing to them except that which Thou didst command me — ‎‎‘Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’ And I was a witness over them as long as I ‎remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die, Thou hast been the ‎Watcher over them; and Thou art Witness over all things.‎
‎[5:119] “If Thou punish them, they are Thy servants; and if Thou forgive them, Thou ‎surely art the Mighty, the Wise.” ‎

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3‎A&ch=5&verse=116‎

God Allah YHWH accounted from Jesus of what the Christians only made up on his ‎behalf; and Jesus denies that he ever claimed to be god or son of god; which is only a ‎mistake of cunning Paul and the Church which followed Paul. It has nothing to do with ‎Jesus, I think.‎

Please tell me if you are from the JWs or the Mormons; kindly do not mind.‎

I love Jesus and Mary.‎

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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