Jesus died, at the ripe age of 120 after accomplishment of his mission; respectfully, naturally and peacefully and is said to be buried in a tomb at Mohallah Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir India

Collin Messer says:

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/is-it-paul%e2%80%99s-or-jesus%e2%80%99-christianity/#comments

Paarsurrey

It seems to me that you are saying that because Paul and the other apostles/disciples were sinful that their words are meaningless?

First of all, all scripture is “God breathed”, meaning that it is inerrant and in line with God’s will.

If I am wrong in my assumption then I apologize and maybe you could clarify for me.

Collin

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Collin Messer

Thank you for visiting my blog and commenting here. You are always welcome to comment; even if your comments are differing with me; it adds to our knowledge and friendship anyway. Please feel free to express yourself fully.

I respect your faith.

I don’t mean that because Paul and the other apostles/disciples were sinful so their words always have to be meaningless; yet what you would do if their words are actually found to have no divine credulity. We cannot take everything they said to be divine or for granted.

I don’t see any merit in them to describe that whatever they wrote in their scriptures was “God breathed”. Jesus never said that whatever these disciples said is to be believed truthful. Even before Jesus himself, they said things which Jesus did not like. They were supposed to be faithful with Jesus that is why they are called disciples; but they deserted him when he needed them; they fled away from the scene of the Cross.

Later these deserters and unfaithful people came up with stories, eulogizing Jesus; why should we accept such stories and fables without scrutinizing them. Why should we become blind; when we can see through the things with the God gifted wisdom? We can apprehend the game they played with Jesus. Why should be we tight lipped about them; while they did things totally against Jesus’ wishes? We should expose trickery of Paul and the sinful scribes, if we are with Jesus. At least I would side with Jesus.

When God Allah YHWH heard the prayers of Jesus done at the garden called Gethsemane; and saved Jesus life, and Jesus did not die a cursed death on Cross. When Jesus got cured of his injuries in Joseph Arimathea’s tomb he was laid, he slipped away secretly towards India along with Mary. He was disgusted with these so called disciples; and did not take them along.

So they perhaps made up the stories disgusted, in shame and frustration.

I doubt God ever breathed anything in their ears. It was Paul who whispered, conspired and eavesdropped foul things into their ears. Moreover one could see many things in their writings where they erred undoubtedly and talked against the will of God and very much out of line; how and why should we declare them inerrant?

Paul and his associates took liberty as Jesus was not present there; he had gone to fulfill his mission assigned to him by God Allah YHWH; and he accomplished that mission successfully. Later Jesus died there respectfully, naturally and peacefully at the age of about 120 years as they say; and is buried in a tomb at Mohallah Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir India.

I think this helps. This is what I believe sincerely.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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2 Responses to “Jesus died, at the ripe age of 120 after accomplishment of his mission; respectfully, naturally and peacefully and is said to be buried in a tomb at Mohallah Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir India”

  1. Collin Messer Says:

    Then you don’t believe anything in the Bible after Jesus was resurrected from the tomb? Then you will not believe Paul’s words in 2 Timothy 3:16 where is says, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness…” Paul’s (nor the others) words are in line with Jesus’ teachings, so how is it to be believed that they made it up?

    Also, what makes you say that Jesus and Mary headed off to India? You say “I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran”. What does it say?

    Collin

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    • paarsurrey Says:

      Hi friend Collin Messer

      I believe that God Allah YHWH revealed his Word on Jesus.

      I only prefer Jesus over the clever Paul and the sinful scribes; Jesus never wrote or dictated any account of his life, so there is no credulity to the writings of these people. As I said in my earlier post neither God nor Jesus breathed anything in these peoples ear; it was the killer Paul doing it in their ears; none else.

      Since Jesus was alive and traveling towards India, so this was against his will and totally not in line with Jesus’ teachings.

      When Jesus survived death on the Cross; he still feared being caught by the Jews in Judea. I don’t see any difficulty in understanding that he went to the East? Is it difficult to go to India than ascending to the heaven with false witnesses describing that he got seated on the right hand of the father? Did the scribes go to heaven with Jesus and then return to earth to witness that Jesus seated there? Of course, it is just a made up fable out of thin air or a myth carved from nothing. It is just an attempt to blind the simple people.

      Neither there is any spiritual proof of Jesus ascending to heaven nor a historical proof to that end. Let Jesus be free from all this; and let him go to Kashmir- the heaven on Earth. He was welcome there. Jesus visit to India has been described in the contemporary Hindu scripture, the Buddhist religious records as also by the Muslim historian.

      I think it is not difficult to understand it; just google for Jesus in India; and a lot of relevant stuff would show up. Later you may think over it.

      I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran; not the mythical Jesus of Bible.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim.

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