“If Jesus was god; of whom he was afraid of not admitting it clearly…” could you give an example of Jesus’ fear—from his own words or actions?

“Why should he say that he was his son? Please give explanation from Jesus’ words.” I will give an example from Jesus’ words, but I have to wonder why you would doubt his words here. He was condemned to death for admitting he was God’s own Son. His statement was not in the sense that people everywhere are God’s children by virtue of his creating us—why would anyone consider that blasphemy? Neither could it be taken to mean he was a son of God by virtue of his righteousness or his being a Jew, for all righteous Jews saw themselves as God’s children in that sense. I have to wonder in what sense you could possibly understand Jesus’ claim here in the Synoptics. There is no other option except to say he is God’s Son by virtue of his literal begetting him in the womb of Mary. It is my understanding that all Islamic believers who accept the Quran as their holy book believe God is literally responsible for Jesus birth, meaning no human male was responsible for Mary’s pregnancy.

Concerning Jesus own words as an explanation, they are found in his third chronological open claim to Deity, John 10:15-33. Here Jesus claimed God is his Father, and he based his words on the text found in Psalm 82 where God refers to men in authority as “gods” by virtue of their sharing in God’s power. However, Psalm 82:8 says: “Arise O God: judge the earth, for you shall inherit all nations.” Notice that God “inherits” all nations. Who gives God “all nations”? Psalm 2 gives us the answer. God gives the nations to his Son (Psalm 2:8). God, the Father of all, gives all nations to his only begotten Son, called God in Psalm 82:8! Jesus, while speaking to the Jewish authorities in John 10, referred to this Scripture and they took up stones to kill him.

There you have it, my friend, in Jesus’ own words. By the way, I apologize for thinking your name is Ahmadi. I didn’t realize until after I posted my comment to you that this was not your name. Have a good an blessed day!

Eddie

“because he was saying he was God’s Son”

Bible presents Jesus as a confused man. If Jesus was god; of whom he was afraid of not admitting it clearly. Why should he say that he was his son?Please give explanation from Jesus’ words.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

I am Eddie a peaceful Christian. I am happy to make your acquaintance.

I hope you don’t mind my replying to your cordial post. I found it as a possible related post to one of my posts in my blog today. I, too, do not believe Jesus was “a” god who became man. I believe he was God who became man. I am not a believer in the Trinity doctrine, and I am a monotheist just like you, but I believe our God is much more complex than we can imagine. He gave us an image of himself in Genesis 1 & 2 when he created the male AND the female. Both are the single image of God. The woman came out of the man, and Jesus is described as coming out from God (the Father).

Concerning your request about the Synoptics—Matthew, Mark and Luke. They do describe Jesus as God, just as John does (and John wasn’t merely expressing his opinion, by the way). The clearest declaration of Jesus Deity is found in his trial before the Sanhedrin on the night and the morning before his crucifixion (Matthew 26:63-66, Mark 14:61-64 and Luke 22:66-71). Matthew and Mark record Jesus’ illegal trial—a kind of rehearsal for the legal trial before the whole Sanhedrin in the morning. Jesus was condemned for blasphemy, because he was saying he was God’s Son, showing he was God (Psalm 2:7-8; 89:27; 82:8).

Take care, Ahmadi, and may God bless you with an ever increasing understanding of his holy word.

The only solution is that one should compare the attributes of the Creator – God Allah YHWH. Quran does allow that Allah may be called Al-Rehman if one likes to.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

No “Good without God?”: Jesus neither god nor Son of god

http://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/%E2%80%A2no-%E2%80%9Cgood-without-god%E2%80%9D-jesus-neither-god-nor-son-of-god/

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Each of these beliefs in God, from Muslim to Jewish and Mormon to Armenian, share a common origin.

However, some people have contradicting beliefs (ex. Would God give of himself to atone for our sins?). And, if contradicting beliefs is evidence of a “different” god then each of us has a different god, because at some minute level we all respond to God in different manners.

The truth is that there is only one God and we each perceive Him in a different and thus incomplete manner.

Somewhere, however, there is a tipping point where our belief in God is nothing greater than the Greek belief in Zeus. Is that point whether or not Jesus was the Messiah? Is that point whether or not Muhammad was God’s prophet?

I surmise that the tipping point is whether we, in effect, put our faith and hope in something other than God. For example, I know in Western Society there has been a great shift in putting faith in ourselves and in having our hope in humanity.

Despite who people claim as their god, when forced to make a choice many people choose themselves. This is a sign that a person’s god is not the one true God.

I just realized I didn’t give a ‘yes’ or ‘no.’

I would say that we can not determine if others believe in the true God. If I accept that my brother is praying to the same god as I, then I have made a cultural determination. This is a subjective determination and personally I would extend that to each of the Abrahamic faiths. Of course, I cannot say for certain whether you or even my brother prays to the true God.

I just now accessed your blog and read some of the posts there written by you. I appreciate your posts and your spirit to bridge gaps between the religions. I would have liked to comments there; but sorry my posts do not get through and get published.

Please feel free to explain more of your comments as given above. I could not grasp its full meanings.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks for visiting my blog.

Regards