http://thechristianwatershed.com/2009/07/22/a-reply-to-a-muslim-the-deity-and-death-of-jesus/
Now coming to the second issue:
Paarsurrey said:
“The truth, in my opinion, is that Jesus was not God; he never proclaimed as such, there are no direct quotes from him in this regards. God talked with Jesus and revealed His word on him, He chose Jesus his Messenger/Prophet/Messiah, Jesus was not a son of God.”
Joel said:
Ah, but He most certainly did make the claim that He was God. Though He never goes throughout ancient Israel saying, “Hey, I’m God,” He does many things and says many things that assert His claim to divinity – and the Pharisees noticed it. Let us look at some of the evidence:
Paarsurrey says:
Hi fried Joel
Please quote from Jesus; not from what the sinful and unfaithful scribes, who deserted Jesus when he most needed them.Later they sided with Paul who was an enemy of Jesus and his friends.
Jesus never could utter such words that he was a god. You say the Pharisees noticed it; I don’t agree with you. The Pharisees were Jews; had they noticed it, it should have been written also in the book of the Jews? Please quote from Jewish source that the Pharisees noticed it.
Jesus denies of this claim as rightly quoted by Quran from Jesus:
[5:117] And when Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary, didst thou say to men, ‘Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah?’”, he will answer, “Holy art Thou. I could never say that to which I had no right. If I had said it, Thou wouldst have surely known it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy mind. It is only Thou Who art the Knower of hidden things.
[5:118] “I said nothing to them except that which Thou didst command me — ‘Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’ And I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die, Thou hast been the Watcher over them; and Thou art Witness over all things.
[5:119] “If Thou punish them, they are Thy servants; and if Thou forgive them, Thou surely art the Mighty, the Wise.”
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=5&verse=116
God Allah YHWH accounted from Jesus of what the Christians only made up on his behalf; and Jesus denies that he ever claimed to be god or son of god; which is only a mistake of cunning Paul and the Church which followed Paul. It has nothing to do with Jesus, I think.
Please tell me if you are from the JWs or the Mormons; kindly do not mind.
I love Jesus and Mary.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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