Stephen Bedard Says:
July 15, 2008 at 12:49 pm
The problem with that is that it is impossible to only seem dead during a crucifixion. In order to breathe, one must lift their body up. The way a person dies during crucifixion is that they are so exhausted they can no longer lift themselves up and they suffocate. So if Jesus passed out or even pretended to be dead, he would really be dead in just a few minutes.
paarsurrey Says:
July 15, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Hi Stephen Bedard!
I respect your opinion but I can’t agree with you for reasons.
Jesus was not the only person put on Cross; there were two other persons mentioned in the NTBible, perhaps of more age than Jesus. They all suffered the same kind of treatment on the Cross. They had the same kind of difficulty of breathing if any on the Cross; yet they only died for sure when their legs were broken.
On a pretex Jesus’ legs were not broken, perhaps there was some sort of hidden collabration between the friends of Jesus, in my opinion, and the Pilate or the Roman officials. You know Pilate exclaimed with surprise that Jesus had died so soon.
I love Jesus and hence would love to see him survive against all odds. Paul was an enemy of Jesus so he invented a story at Rome that Jesus died a cursed or sinful death on Cross.
Jesus was then alive and in self-exile in India. Jesus did not die on Cross, he survived and died a peaceful and natural death in India, at some point in the history.
Please don’t mind; we are searching of truth.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful person
PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 Says:
Apart from this, it was necessary that he should escape death on the cross, for it was stated in the Holy Book that whoever was hanged on the wood was accursed. It is a cruel and an unjust blasphemy to attribute a curse to an eminent person like Jesus, the Messiah, for, according to the agreed view of all who know the language, la’nat, or curse, has reference to the state of one’s heart. A man would be said to be accursed when his heart, having been estranged from God, becomes really dark; when, deprived of divine mercy and of divine love, devoid absolutely of His Knowledge, blinded like the devil, he becomes filled with the poison of unbelief; when there remains not a ray of divine love and knowledge in him; when the bond of loyalty is broken, and between him and God there arises hatred and contempt and spite and hostility, so much so that God and he become mutual enemies; and when God becomes weary of him and he becomes weary of God; in short, when he becomes an heir to all the attributes of the Devil — and that is why the Devil himself is called accursed.
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch1.html
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July 15, 2008 at 8:50 pm |
Hello,
If you have a chance to investigate this further, there is a book I found very interesting, that might be of interest to you as well: “The Case for the Real Jesus”, by Lee Strobel. As I recall, there is plenty of discussion about how Jesus might have survived the cross.
Good luck in your search for the truth.
July 15, 2008 at 10:46 pm |
Hi
Thank you for mentioning a book on the subject. I intend to look into it.Have you got a link where I could access it freely.
Regards
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim